Sabrina could be a better option.

Discussion in 'TiVo Stream 4K' started by dbpaddler, Sep 26, 2020.

  1. ListedGuru

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    Do you notice a difference with SDR content with the match dynamic range on or off? Just curious.

    Just ordered one from Best Buy as I had some reward certificates to use up. I wanted to blue color but it says sold out already so I settled on white.
     
  2. Alex_7

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    I need to fiddle with this option and do some tests after work
     
  3. dbpaddler

    dbpaddler Well-Known Member

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    Not sure why anyone would buy that over using a hub with Ethernet. The chipset supports gigabit I believe. But even 10/100 being wired and consistent is usually better than potentially faster wifi that can vary.

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  4. dbpaddler

    dbpaddler Well-Known Member

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    Can you point to an article that says all this because I haven't read about that yet. To my understanding it's just the evolution of android tv.

    Actually just read that from the verge article. It's also mentioned that it's not exclusive and other partners will be offering it as well. So while it is on top, it does seem to be the go to of what these tv's and devices should be.

    Could also see many here just not bothering with the TS4k at this point. Why deal with with their slow development when you don't have to? Especially if you can get the aggregated info without the extra layer of tivo software on it. I love the peanut remote, but not at the expense of a nicer UI and no stream app always staring me in the face.

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  5. Akhaxton

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    Google TV is the future of Android TV but Android TV will still exist (and yes, this is confusing)
     
  6. NashGuy

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  7. dbpaddler

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    Yeah, I get the gist. I can see pretty much every other device/tv out there and upcoming use the interface except for the TS4k because of Stream. Seems like a dagger to them.

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  8. xberk

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    I assume the Sabrina is limited to one USB-C port for everything .. the TS4K has two ports, one micro usb for power and the type C. I think two ports are better than one. I would expect that the TS4K that I bought will develop (with two ports) in a way that the Sabrina cannot with one. Am I off on this? Just seems two is better than one.
     
  9. aaronwt

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    As long as your wifi is setup properly, the wifi will be faster. All my streaming devices with either a 100Mb/s Ethernet port or only wireless options connect to wireless AC. I can get much higher throughput over wireless. FOr instance my Fire TV 4K sticks get 300Mb/s while my Rokus get 130Mb/s speeds. Either way they can stream very high bitrate UHD(100+Mb/s) content with zero issues. It will play back just as well as from my wired GigE streaming devices.

    But then the key is a properly setup wifi network. And unfortunately most people do not have properly setup wifi networks. A properly setup wifi network has multiple Access Points placed around the dwelling. So every device can get great signal strength and have no congestion issues. Most people try to cover their entire dwelling with only one AP. Heck I need to use five APs in my condo to do this. But then I also have over seventy wireless devices now(with more coming). In addition to the sixty wired devices.
     
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  10. Alex_7

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    Not sure if I will invest in a hub right away since my router is right next to my tv, although I do prefer to hard wire my devices. Expanding my storage is what concerns me more, Kodi ends up eating a lot of my internal storage space.. I only have 4.4GB of free space, as long as Google doesn't start adding extra apps we dont need like amazon did I should be fine for now.
     
  11. NashGuy

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    Yeah, having two ports is one feature that the TS4K has going for it over Chromecast w Google TV. It also has the TiVo peanut remote with more buttons, which will appeal to some folks. And the TiVo Stream app has a live guide that integrates Sling TV plus free live streaming channels. (Although I expect that in time the Live tab in Google TV will support not just YouTube TV but other live streaming services, as Amazon has done with their Fire TV UI grid guide. Hopefully Google TV will incorporate OTA channels too. Would be very weird if the upcoming Sony smart TVs that will run Google TV don't have their own internal OTA tuner's channels show up in the Live tab.)
     
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  12. NashGuy

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    Yeah, maybe. Depends on whether those devices/TVs are "eligible" to adopt Google TV, per Google's (at this time) unknown guidelines. But TiVo is the only one I could potentially see turning down Google TV even if they qualified for it. I'd think Nvidia would want to adopt it as long as they were somehow able to prominently incorporate their games into the UI (maybe as a featured row on For You or via their own Shield Games tab).
     
  13. tigercat74

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    Not a fan of the remote. Might take a little time but I just love the Roku remote.
     
  14. dbpaddler

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    That is the key. Not properly setup. Congested wifi and other interference. Older routers. Too far from a router for optimal speed. Many in the house streaming over wifi. You can get drop outs and you name it. Wired is wired. 4k is about 14kb/s, so even 10/100 is just fine. Plus more wired devices you have the better off your wifi is. I try to reserve wifi for portable devices and home automation. Ran Ethernet from the basement to the 2nd floor closet and branched out to the two rooms with TV. So anything AV related is all wired. Phones, tablet, laptops, Google smart stuff all on wireless.

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  15. JOSHSKORN

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    I just came back from Wal-mart and they didn't have the device. I should've gone earlier but that was my fault. I went ahead and ordered it online from BestBuy. I should receive it by Friday. I also looked at the Google Store, where it would take much longer to receive the device by, I believe a couple of weeks.
     
  16. dbpaddler

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    The TS4k remote is great for live TV, especially adding in button mapper to the mix. If you use channels dvr for OTA there's even more love for the remote.

    Honestly, the TS4k could do the job just fine. I think the problem is the early issues that created venom. The audio/video issues. The delays in updates. Seeing the beta side of things and questioning why we're focused on some of these things they're doing (one of my peeves). And for me, finding out that updating certain things isn't on their early radar unless customers complain and push. The stream app for me has been nothing but annoying, and forcing the channel on me even when I'm not using it is worse.

    I also wonder about usb-c support. I know it's gotten better for the TS4k. But what if some of that support is in Android 10 and not just maintenance updates for 9? What if less devices work for the TS4k than Sabrina? And separate power is fine and all but if you're powering things through the hub that utilize power, I'd rather power through the hub and use the pass through to power the device.

    For me it's enough to try and return two of my three. Never hurts to spread the device love and then one can compare the two devices which can either end up finding merit to both or digging the grave for one. And either way, the devices are $50 and probably not getting more expensive, and deals will always pop up. No way Tivo can raise the price back to its og MSRP. That would just bury it.

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  17. foghorn2

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    This makes the Tivo Stream 4K irrelevant, too bad for tivo.
     
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  18. JOSHSKORN

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    Those of you that have the new Sabrina device now, have you tried pairing it with a universal remote? I'm interested in hearing from you.
     
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  19. mrizzo80

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    OOS in the Google store? Is that the only way to get the Netflix offer? Not available on Amazon at all?

    Do better, tech giants.
     
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  20. dbpaddler

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    There's no IR. Universal BT remotes aren't very common. When I pick one up I plan to try and pair the TS4k to it. Fingers will be crossed.

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