Sabrina could be a better option.

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  1. Sep 26, 2020 #1 of 436
    dbpaddler

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    Here's the unboxing article.
    Chromecast with Google TV gets full unboxing [Gallery] - 9to5Google

    For those that don't care about the Stream app and de-tivo'd it, the new Google TV dongle could be a better deal. It gets a processor bump from the Tivo's amlogic s905y2 to the s905x3 which bumps up to the A55 cores over the A53 and a higher clock speed. Probably not a huge real world difference between the two, but every little bit helps. Same 2gb of ram and 8gb of storage.

    With usb-c and a later version of Android tv there might be better usb-c support out of the box as well. Sabrina is shipping with Android 10 while tivo is on 9. Nothing revolutionary between the two, but with Sabrina being built with usb-c, I bet it has better usb-c support than the TS4k out of the box. Should bring better usb-c support to the TS4k over time which is a plus though.

    I think the biggest difference is in the remotes. For those in the live TV/dvr world, I'm sure the wannabe apple style remote is a negative over Tivo's. I'm definitely a fan of the tivo remote, especially on my TV/amp setups as it's the only remote I need. Have a feeling the Google remote won't be great with Channels DVR and I'd be more inclined to get the Harmony companion remote which I was happy ditching with my new setups.

    If they hit the $50 price point I'll definitely give one a try.

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    xberk

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    Looks to me like a single port device (the usb-c port), which means if all I want is to add Ethernet, then a hub will be necessary? True?
     
  3. Sep 26, 2020 #3 of 436
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    Looks that way. There are some pretty minimal hubs out there though, and are a dime a dozen at this point.

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  4. Sep 26, 2020 #4 of 436
    xberk

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    I like the TS4K, setting the issue of the remote aside, I think if your wanting external storage and ethernet, then two ports are better than one.
     
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    dbpaddler

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    I have no issue with it like some. But I'm sure most of us are tech geeks to a degree and like to play with new stuff. If it's cheap, I'm sure many of us will pick one up to try.

    And I'd think it'd be simpler with a powered usb-c as your only connection and everything working off the hub. Less cables. Less clutter.

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  6. Sep 26, 2020 #6 of 436
    NashGuy

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    Looks like it actually has the Amlogic S905D3, but that chip is very similar to the S905X3, so probably not much, if any, actual performance difference between the two. Aside from the general processing speed bump it should have over the -Y2 chip in the TS4K, it also adds an AI accelerator, which should mean faster processing of voice queries to Google Assistant via the remote. That AI feature was the main difference between the Gen 2 and Gen 3 line of chips.
     
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  7. Sep 26, 2020 #7 of 436
    dbpaddler

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    Thanks for the clarification. Really wish they would've stepped up on the remote. I'm so tired of these watered down streaming remotes. Real video nav controls and basic TV controls. I mean iptv has been a thing for what, 3yrs now? Google even owns YouTube with their service. Why does tivo kinda get it and nobody else does?

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  8. Sep 26, 2020 #8 of 436
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    You sure about that because 9 to 5 from its update 3 seems to think it's the x3. Splitting hairs. Just curious why you think it's the d3? Some other site have different info?

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  9. Sep 26, 2020 #9 of 436
    Alex_7

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    The Walmart employee I talked to yesterday said it goes up for sale on September 30th. Price is $49.98

    I’m gonna pick up one up day one. It will most likely replace my TiVo stream device.
     
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  10. Sep 26, 2020 #10 of 436
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    Yeah, 9 to 5 Google saw that the new Chromecast's SoC features Cortex-A55 cores, which are a feature of Amlogic's Gen 3 SoCs. So they deduced that, rather than having the S905X2, it must be the S905X3. But, of course, the S905Y3 and S905D3 also belong to that same third generation of SoCs and also have Cortex-A55 cores. So it could have been that the Chromecast was using either of those instead of the -X3.

    The proof that it's the -D3 came via Twitter, from Android TV Guide.
     
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  11. Sep 26, 2020 #11 of 436
    dbpaddler

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    For $50 I'm sure I'll grab one too. My Leeco TV hasn't seen an update in years. But I won't convert out all. My TS4k's since the remote sucks, and the peanut works so well for my other setups.

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  12. Sep 26, 2020 #12 of 436
    dbpaddler

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    Nice. That actually shows the chip.

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  13. Sep 26, 2020 #13 of 436
    NashGuy

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    There's very little info to be had on the S905D3. I don't know if it actually shipped in anything before this new Chromecast. This source runs down all the specs for the -X3 and then says just a bit at the bottom of the page about the -Y3 and -D3. For the -D3, it says:

    "The S905D3 is a variant of the S905X3 and probably will support an internal DVB-T2, Satellite and Cable tuners."

    Of course, the Chromecast doesn't have any kind of tuner in it. But perhaps this will give it some kind of enhanced performance in terms of working with external OTA tuners?
     
  14. Sep 26, 2020 #14 of 436
    Alex_7

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    I hope expanding storage is as easy as with my TiVo stream, on my firestick I am already getting the storage is running low message.
     
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    Would think it should be. Tivo doesn't have any special sauce there. It's still a native android tv device.

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  16. Sep 26, 2020 #16 of 436
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    I think working with network tuners is strictly software/firmware related.

    I would imagine the chipset is preparing to be in setop boxes for upcoming cable boxes be it tivo/android tv, X1 and whatever the thrid one is. Would be nice to see an OTA android tv box, but I kind of like the network tuner so I don't have to be tied into anyone's ecosystem and can just go with whatever app gives me the best OTA DVR experience.

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  17. Sep 26, 2020 #17 of 436
    Alex_7

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    My TiVo stream stream setup is just a usb c to USB adapter with a usb flash drive for external storage for my apps.

    but with this new chromecast I would need an org cable or hub since there is only one singular USB c port.

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    I’m wondering if something like this would work
     
  18. Sep 26, 2020 #18 of 436
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    Nice thing about the TS4K is that it has a spare USB port that you can connect a hard drive or SD card reader to. But on this new Chromecast, there's just the USB-C port that is used for power. So that means you'll need a hub/dongle to which you can connect both external storage as well as a power cord. That'll probably run $25 or so.
     
  19. Sep 26, 2020 #19 of 436
    dbpaddler

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    That should do the trick. I have a few of them.

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  20. Sep 26, 2020 #20 of 436
    NashGuy

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    Yeah, that's probably true. Wonder why Google specifically went with the -D3 rather than more common -X3 here?
     

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