S3 for $399 very soon?

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  1. Mar 10, 2007 #1 of 123
    peitsche

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    according to this story , it might happen in the not-so-distant future..

    I wonder if that article will have an effect on this poll ...either way, I'm sure the price will be under $400 by next spring/early summer...



    Poll: 46 Percent Would Buy $399 TiVo HD DVR
    The DVR service is considering dropping the price on the high-def recorder.
    By Phillip Swann

    Washington, D.C. (March 10, 2007) -- TiVo CEO Tom Rogers said this week his company needs to drop the price on its $799 Series 3 HD DVR, adding that sales have been disappointing....
     
  2. Mar 10, 2007 #2 of 123
    Kipp Jones

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    I would buy two/three more if they did and get rid of my 3 Comcast DVRs. I already have 2 Series 3 DVRs.
     
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    bilbo

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    Well, I haven't seen much discounting from Best Buy or Circuit City, which can't exactly help matters. These two big box stores don't seem to carry if the Series 3 sit on their shelves forever. But they've got televisions for sale every week. But they are both for-profit companies (well, at least BB is profitable), so they will probably only advertise (and mark down) what they think/know can sell.

    Judging by the speed at which Dell sold out of theirs when they were about $500, the $400 price point should be where Tivo wants to be to get more consumer interest (other than devoted Tivo followers). To put everything in perspective, though, the Humax DVD Burner Units were selling for $500 two years ago, I believe.
     
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    Gregor

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    I wonder if $399 is the 'consumer' version spoken about earlier this week?
     
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    Fofer

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    They need to drop the price, and they need to incorporate an answer for SDV. I took the gamble and bought one, but wouldn't do it again until I heard something definitive... (I'm with TimeWarner.)
     
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    Gregor

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    Good point. I wonder if the new unit will address SDV?
     
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    I would buy 3 or 4 more at that price if it could handle SDTV and if the montly fees were discounted bigtime since I would have 4 or 5 tivo's. Also would be nice to be able to stream one to the other.
     
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    hornblowercat

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    He says "a mass market HD receiver later this year." That sounds exactly like what we heard previously. It won't be the S3.
     
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    bidger

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    As someone who's also in a TWC market, though currently a D* sub, I don't fault you one bit for adopting that stance.
     
  10. Mar 10, 2007 #10 of 123
    dt_dc

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    He said:
    "We will be highly focused this year on moving forward with a lower-priced, mass appeal High-Def unit".

    They will be focused this year on delivering the mass market HD receiver ... nothing about it actually being delivered this year. In the conference call he also said they'd be ready to talk about details "later in the year".

    I personally haven't seen / heard Tivo actually commit to delivering the mass market HD receiver this year anywhere.
     
  11. Mar 10, 2007 #11 of 123
    hornblowercat

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    I assume you highlighted this as I said something that was misinformative. I don't see anything different from what I said then what you said. I didn't say there would be a mass market HD unit developed, just that they were moving forward on the idea.
     
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    HomieG

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    I might even bite if it gets to that price point...
     
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    aaronwt

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    All they need to do is lower the S3. I'd pick up a fourth unit for $400.
     
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    CrispyCritter

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    Note that Swann has proven he knows much less than the folks here on numerous occasions over the years. He's wrong again here. Rogers very strongly said that TiVo will be coming out with a new HD model, not reducing the price on the S3 to make it their low-cost HD model. They are not interested in subsidizing HD models (and will be dropping their subsidies of the DT in the future).
     
  15. Mar 11, 2007 #15 of 123
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    I wonder if they can. If you look at a company like Microsoft and the Xbox 360, they are loosing money in upwards of 150 per console. I imagine that it all has to do with how much the S3 costs to make. If it is in the neighborhood of 400-500 dollars, then I don't see how Tivo could possibly make the S3 for sale at that price. Unlike Microsoft, Tivo doesn't have the option of eating 150 per S3 because there is no secondary income as with the games and accessories with the xbox. While there is the monthly subscription fee, 13$ a month per tivo is hardly adequate enough to take that kind of a hit per box.
     
  16. Mar 11, 2007 #16 of 123
    hornblowercat

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    I still don't understand why so many people are assuming it will be the S3 with the lower price. I say it will be another model and I doubt very much that it will deal with SDV.

    SDV is not anything new just because it's been a hot topic for a month or so around here. Matter of fact there is a poll (you do the search) that shows the majority of S3 buyers knew in advance of SDV.

    So I suspect it will not have most of the features of the S3, may not even have the possibility of TTG or MRV. It will definitely be better then anything the cable company offers, but that's about it.
     
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    aaronwt

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    Microsoft actually makes money on each console now.They don't lose any money on console sales anymore since sometime late last year.
     
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    dt_dc

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    Sorry ... wasn't aimed at you personally. Several people seem to be jumping from Rogers' comments to 'something actually coming out and on the shelves this year' in a telephone / down the alley kindof way.

    For example, from engadget:
    TiVo CEO promises lower-priced HD TiVo this year

    Of course, he didn't say it wouldn't be on the shelves this year either. Then again, he didn't say it would either.
     
  19. Mar 11, 2007 #19 of 123
    Fofer

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    Why not... they'd make it back in a year! Don't they have confidence we'd still be using the S3 and subscribing, in a year? :p
     
  20. Mar 11, 2007 #20 of 123
    peitsche

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    I get your point but are we sure that Rogers is actually talking about anything other than the TiVo-for-Comcast product (the download-the-TiVo-software-to-your-existing-Motorola-box kind)? If so, could you provide a quote for that?
     

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