Rovi Lineup Issues & Corrections

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  1. Space

    Space Active Member

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    There is an entire section dedicated to these type of notifications:
    Season Pass Alerts

    This forum has been around for a while, but relatively recently has seen an incredible upsurge in postings, right around the time of the Rovi data switch. I wonder if it is related in some way??? :confused:
     
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  2. morac

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    I'm really confused. I have a OnePass for Saturday Night Live. Every week the 10 pm airing of an old episode is in My To Do list, but then it never records and there's no reason why in the history. It used to record, but stopped a few weeks back. What makes no sense is that up until 10 pm it's in My To Do list, but then nothing happens.

    Actually this week it recorded the 10 PM episode as a suggestion, which also makes no sense since it was in the To Do List.
     
  3. NorthAlabama

    NorthAlabama tabasco rules

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    on recurring shows, i've noticed entries in the to do list that are not actually scheduled recordings. when you press select on them, you still have the option listed to record. i don't know why these appear, but you can delete them. this started with rovi.
     
  4. wmhjr

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    I think you have it backwards. It seems as though he has a 1P that he WANTS those episodes to record, and they used to. Now, they show up in his "To do" list, but they don't actually record.
     
  5. slowbiscuit

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    Wow, that's a REALLY bad bug. I've never seen that but if you can't trust the ToDo you're really screwed.
     
  6. HerronScott

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    Should the 10pm showing have recorded based on your 1P settings (record New & repeats or Everything) or was it only getting recorded because it had incomplete guide data? It is very odd that you would not get something in the history if it was in the ToDo up to 10pm even if it was due to incomplete guide data.

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  7. morac

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    My 1P is set for new only. The 10 PM episodes are abridged versions of older episodes, so technically they are "new", but not really. It looks like last night's episode has data indicating it first aired in 2013, so I would expect it to not record. That doesn't explain why it was in the To Do list in the first place, unless it didn't get data until the day it aired and my box just happened to connect around the time it aired. If that's the case it could just be another one of the ongoing cases where guide data is updated at the last minute.

    Next week's 10 pm episode is currently scheduled to record, but it just has generic guide data. I'll try and remember to keep an eye on it on Saturday.
     
  8. Mikeguy

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    I wonder at times whether some of this is due to data field inconsistency--for example, one data field noting something as a rerun, but another, which is being used for scheduling, not. But still odd that something on the To-do list then does not record--unless there was a last-minute update.
     
  9. morac

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    The only data that makes a difference is the original air date. As for a last minute update. That's my current theory as I didn't check the To Do list immediately before 10 PM, but a few hours earlier. TiVo seems to have a tendency to update guide data on the weekends now for the upcoming week.
     
  10. lew

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    The CBS tribute to Mary Tyler Moore was scheduled more then 24 hours in advance. Early enough for Gracenote but not tivo. The Sundance channel Mary Tyler Moore marathon on Saturday was scheduled early enough to make the Saturday NY Times (printed with home delivery) but not tivo.
     
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  11. Mikeguy

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    As was remarked to me when I also made this point, it may be wishful thinking at this point to hope that Rovi can implement a scheduling change with less than a few days' notice. Silly me, I thought that there would be a person handling last-minute changes--how hard could that be to do? (For heaven's sake, give it to a community college broadcasting intern.)
     
  12. lpwcomp

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    One of the things that is very revealing about this situation is that the point of contact for program data problems is a TiVo s/w development manager. Apparently, Rovi never had any mechanism for reporting problems.
     
  13. JoeKustra

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    Back in the Sony DHG days when I used a Rovi guide, the reporting of errors was done to the cable feed or OTA station, who, on their schedule, would tell Rovi. And if you tried to tell Rovi, you received a canned message to call your provider.
     
  14. NorthAlabama

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    no, i understand. what i'm saying is that even if it's in the tdl, if it's a re-airing, he'd better select it to see if there's an option to record, and if there is, select.

    just because a line item is in the tdl doesn't necessarily mean it will record when it comes to re-airing of a show. yes, it's a serious bug.
     
  15. wmhjr

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    Gotcha. Makes sense.
     
  16. NorthAlabama

    NorthAlabama tabasco rules

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    just to be extra clear, these line items have double blue check marks like other recordings in the tdl, they're not greyed out line items with a red "x", yet they still aren't scheduled to record for some odd reason.
     
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  17. Zonker007

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    Just checked the Tivo Guide for this week and Jimmy Kimmel is showing the NEW episode label M-Th and not NEW on Friday. However M-F are scheduled in the To-Do list. This is clearly an issue with the way 1P is working with the Guide.

    Margret are you reading this?

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  18. HerronScott

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    You know that 1P have never used the New flag for recording (or not recording)? It uses the OAD which is what's caused issues as that has not always been either present or accurate with the Rovi guide data.

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  19. Zonker007

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    Yeah I realize that, but was trying to illustrate that it was a NEW episode and not a repeat. The Original Air Date as well as Season Information has been consistently wrong and someone needs to take a stand before Trump passes an Executive Order banning Rovi Guide Data!! o_O

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  20. JoeKustra

    JoeKustra in the other Alabama TCF Club

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    While I'm not saying what you see should not be corrected, it has been that way for years. I know that Late Night is a generic/repeat on Friday night (Saturday morning) and always has been. I doesn't record. Same with Jimmy and the Late Late Show. Just recently TDS has been replaced on Friday, but for years there was a repeat in the morning that would record. These are problems that I can live with right now. I hope Margret has bigger problems to fix.
     

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