Rovi Guide

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by cherry ghost, Aug 22, 2016.

  1. osu1991

    osu1991 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2015


    My Roamios on Cox had the correct title on Hallmark the week before, as I remember setting it to record for my stepmom. It recorded as Good Witch: Secrets of Grey House. I usually set all the timers the weekend before for the new Hallmark movies for her and they've been correct for me.
  2. pL86

    pL86 Member

    Oct 11, 2009
    New York City
    Kid-oriented channels are a complete disaster with Rovi. Nickelodeon, Teen Nick and Cartoon Network listings are littered with errors. Here's a comparison of Rovi versus Gracenote data for the Teen Nickelodeon channel for primetime on Monday, 10/24:

    8:00 pm - Big Time Rush - Victorious
    8:30 pm - Big Time Rush - Victorious
    9:00 pm - Open Heart - Boy Meets World
    9:30 pm - Degrassi - Boy Meets World
    10:00 pm - Degrassi - Hey Arnold!
    10:30 pm - Big Time Rush - Hey Arnold! (10:33 pm start)
    11:00 pm - Drake & Josh - Rocket Power (11:05 pm start)
    11:30 pm - Drake & Josh - Rocket Power (11:38 pm start)

    Two guesses which lineup is accurate (winner if you said Gracenote).

    The Rovi guide info is wrong for EVERY SINGLE SHOW tonight. In contrast, the Gracenote data picks up when shows go long or start late. It's also not a one time thing - Rovi is perfectly wrong for every night this coming week on the Teen Nick (morning and afternoon listings are equally wrong). As far as I can tell, the Rovi data might as well have been pulled from a hat. Such systemic inaccuracy tells me that the Rovi guide data is junk. I have little faith it's going to be fixed by submitting support tickets (is there a way to submit a lineup ticket listing every time slot?). The Tivo experience is 95% software, 5% hardware. It's become painfully clear to me that Tivo has fundamentally broken their product.
    Last edited: Oct 24, 2016
  3. rainwater

    rainwater Active Member

    Sep 21, 2004
    Tonight's Daily Show will not record due to the generic "Comedy Central Programming". Glancing around, it seems we are back to a bunch of generic programming data and "To Be Announced". So I guess every few weeks we are suppose to just expect a bunch of missing data and recordings? At this point, I am seriously considering dumping my TiVos and just going to Directv.
  4. morac

    morac Cat God TCF Club

    Mar 14, 2003

    "[channel name] Programming" is showing up on a number of channels (Comedy Central, Cartoon Network) this entire week.
  5. neel

    neel New Member

    Feb 6, 2016


    They still haven't fixed anything for Charter Cable, San Gabriel Valley ,CA. I emailed them the error over a month ago.

    191 KABCDT2SD should be KABC3 "Laff TV"
    202 should be Buzzr
    216 Bounce, 218 KRCA and 812 Ovation all say "To be announced" with no guide listings.
  6. RayChuang88

    RayChuang88 Well-Known Member

    Sep 5, 2002
    It appears that Rovi guide information transmittal is acting up again this week. :mad: While most channels seem to be okay, I'm still seeing the occasional To Be Announced "holes" out there. :thumbsdown:
    Last edited: Oct 25, 2016
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  7. jth tv

    jth tv Well-Known Member

    Nov 15, 2014
    Yeah it seems to have gone downhill. Not that I watch it, but instead of General Hospital this week, it says, To Be Announced. That show has been on every weekday for years, how could that happen. (Los Angeles, Antenna)

    And KCET Shetland has no episode info so its being recorded over and over again and I don't know if which episode is which.
  8. rainwater

    rainwater Active Member

    Sep 21, 2004
    I'm getting a huge guide update today (taking forever to load). Perhaps they fixed the holes in the data again?
  9. JoeKustra

    JoeKustra in the other Alabama TCF Club

    Dec 7, 2012
    Ashland, PA...
    General Hospital/ABC
  10. rainwater

    rainwater Active Member

    Sep 21, 2004
    Looks like today's big guide update removed a bunch of data. Just today, I see ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU, and BTN are showing TBA. I am assuming later in the week is even worse. How does Rovi not catch these mistakes? Why are they removing data they had correct at one point? Do they have no checks in place for anything?
    Last edited: Oct 25, 2016
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  11. velouria28

    velouria28 Member

    Sep 22, 2008
    Yeah, the removing of already correct data is the most baffling/frustrating thing with all of these guide problems. I've just started giving my To Do List a quick once over between the guide update and the start of prime time every night. I shouldn't have to do that.
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  12. osu1991

    osu1991 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2015
    That big update just made things worse.
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  13. rainwater

    rainwater Active Member

    Sep 21, 2004
    Hopefully someone at TiVo is a Warriors fan. Tonight's opening game on TNT (West coast feed) shows TBA for 16 hours. Otherwise, I don't know how we get these guide issues fixed. It doesn't seem to help to report guide issues to TiVo. They might take a month to get to the report and it is too late by then.
  14. L David Matheny

    L David Matheny Active Member

    Jan 29, 2011
    SE Ohio
    Are you seeing big changes to the Rovi data as it's shown online, or just as it ends up in your TiVo guide? I suspect that the TiVo guide data is being (re)generated regularly by a program using the Rovi guide data as input, and some of the lurching changes we're seeing reflect not changes in the Rovi data but modifications to the conversion program. Hopefully they'll get it right one of these days.
  15. jlb

    jlb Go Pats!

    Dec 13, 2001
    Burlington, VT
    I tend not to see problems as my lineup is just the locals (essentially)...

    But today I set up a season pass for Late Late Show with James Corden. IT said "2 upcoming epsiodes". I went into the guide view and sure enough, after the next two nights it is showing as "TBA".
  16. JoeKustra

    JoeKustra in the other Alabama TCF Club

    Dec 7, 2012
    Ashland, PA...
    Just got my daily fix. It turned SNL for 11/5 to TBA. But it's now new. o_O
  17. osu1991

    osu1991 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2015
    After todays update, I still have to be announced in the ABC afternoon slot and now have to be announced for NBC primetime all next week.
  18. wish_bgr

    wish_bgr Member

    Jul 18, 2014
    ABC daytime schedule is flux' up; had TBA for the General Hospital listings and now it's creeping into The Chew; today's episode is TBA and TiVo missed recording this new episode for my Season Pass

    Also, Home & Family on Hallmark Channel are missing episode descriptions.
  19. sandycityscott

    sandycityscott Member

    Oct 8, 2002
    Really wish the Rovi data would include the language programs are in. Thumbs down on non-English shows doesn't stop them from recording in suggestions, since the language category has been completely removed since the Rovi changeover.
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  20. phox_mulder

    phox_mulder I get paid 2watch TV

    Feb 23, 2006
    Salt Lake...
    My NBC TBA prime starts tomorrow, then goes for a week.
    Add CBS prime being TBA starting tomorrow as well, and going for a week.

    I originally though maybe they were not doing new shows due to the World Series and haven't updated ROVI yet, but since it's happening every day, I doubt that.

    I had tuner space, so just set up 3 hour manual recordings for both, at least tomorrow.


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