Rovi Guide

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  1. Aug 24, 2016 #101 of 1288
    schatham

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    Can those with issues also post your provider. That way we can see if their are any patterns. I don't have the new guide yet as far as I can tell. Unless everything worked 100% and I just can't tell the difference.
     
  2. Aug 24, 2016 #102 of 1288
    sar840t2

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    The first part of what you observed will be a feature IMO (not the second part though). I wonder what would happen if you deleted the whole folder - would it offer to delete the single OnePass that is shared by several folders? Or ... do you need multiple OnePasses now (one for each series within Masterpiece Mystery - Wallander, Endeavor, etc.)?

    If I wasn't subscribed to this forum, how would I know to expect this transition? I don't believe my TiVo has received messages about it (yet - maybe they send one shortly before?). I know I didn't get an email about it.
     
  3. Aug 24, 2016 #103 of 1288
    L David Matheny

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    I've seen the problem before where some show that should be part of an established PBS series is listed in such a way that the 1P doesn't see it. If that's a feature, it's surely a very bad feature. I don't want to add a new "OnePass" (irony?) for every PBS show variation or convert every PBS 1P to an auto-record wishlist.
     
  4. Aug 24, 2016 #104 of 1288
    jth tv

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    There were messges on my Roamio Basic about the change. Which model TiVo are you using ?

    For me at least, the transition is not bad, really minor problems really. However, I think if I were them, I would have checked Air Date carefully since it is so important to recording.

    I am thinking about playing with the Masterpiece folder but not yet Not the end of the world if I lose the episodes, I already tried watching them, just not in the mood. Maybe later.
     
  5. Aug 24, 2016 #105 of 1288
    TonyD79

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    In the case of masterpiece, yes, it is a feature. I had to add and remove one passes for things like Downton abbey until I manage to find a wish list auto record that worked. Much easier to just select Downton abbey on masterpiece.
     
  6. Aug 24, 2016 #106 of 1288
    sar840t2

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    I agree, needing multiple OnePasses would be bad. I *assumed* the split is being done only when deciding what to display in each folder.

    A Roamio Pro and a Premiere Elite (aka XL4)

    If I'm parsing that correctly, I would need the opposite - don't record Downton. Each to his own :D
     
  7. Aug 24, 2016 #107 of 1288
    meckel

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  8. Aug 24, 2016 #108 of 1288
    lpwcomp

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    It's actually worse than I thought it would be.
     
  9. Aug 24, 2016 #109 of 1288
    Steve

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    Any Bolt users get the new guide data yet? No "new software" messages on either of my Bolts. They're both signed-up for early delivery, if that matters.
     
  10. Aug 24, 2016 #110 of 1288
    beryrinaldo

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    My Roamio Plus transitioned to new SW and guide data Monday night. At the first point I noticed a difference, I looked into my Wishlists and they were not recording shows that had been working fine before. I had keyword "San Francisco Giants" with "MLB" and "-Regional" for title and "Sports: Sports Event" and options to record New only and HD only. Here are the things that appear to have been lost -- the title only lists "Giants" (Not "San Francisco Giants") and the New flag does not appear to be correct in the listings, or perhaps the wishlist is not recognizing it.

    I have another wishlist set for category Music and HD only. I had a few title keywords to exclude but for the most part, it was finding concerts on Palladia and other music shows. Now it's finding movies, TV shows like America's Got Talent, Saturday Night Live as well as kids shows that now have Music in their list of categories. So it looks like I have a lot more things to exclude.

    This new data is not consistent with the old data, so wishlists seem to be particularly vulnerable to problems. I chatted with support yesterday and they apologized more than once and said "The change should take 24 hrs from when your TiVo Switched over Max. I would suggest you force a connection to TiVo Services to update the Program Guide Data quicker." -- it's been more than 24 hours but the state of my wishlists is still the same when I looked this morning. I'm having to manually schedule recordings to make sure they happen.

    I've also noticed that live sports are no longer flagged as such so when I manually schedule a recording for a live event, it used to prompot me to add extra time, but that is not happening now. I'm having to remember to add time myself.

    I hope that they will address all these issues. It's frustrating as an end-user who really did not know this was coming. I've opened a ticket with support...we'll just have to wait and see if the data gets better.
     
  11. Aug 24, 2016 #111 of 1288
    TonyD79

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    Well. Nobody records Downton anymore.
     
  12. Aug 24, 2016 #112 of 1288
    TonyD79

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    I have not. And yet I got a lineup update via grace note yesterday. Fios is changing the ESPN extra channels from SD to HD.
     
  13. Aug 24, 2016 #113 of 1288
    OmeneX

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    I haven't seen anything on my Bolt. Check for it constantly.(Cox, AZ)
     
  14. Aug 24, 2016 #114 of 1288
    powrcow

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    I have a Premier XL4 on Cox (AZ) and I was updated to the Rovi guide early Wednesday morning.

    Many SD channels I had previously turned off are now marked as "new" so I'll have to go through the list again and remove them again.

    Being in AZ, we get the Pacific or West feeds. Those channels' names have changed. For example, USAHDP is now USAHD-W. I'll have to check to make sure the guide data matches with the feed, but that was a problem with Cox/Gracenote before. Season passes seem to have made the transition from one naming convention to another without any problems.

    As of right now, Wishlists are not showing up in the To Do List. But the only Wishlist recording I know about is coming up on Sunday since I checked before the update. So if there is some background work that needs to happen, it might fix itself this evening.

    I haven't touched anything yet. I guess I'm trying to see how successful this is without user intervention. As of right now, it looks like I'll only need to remove a few SD channels and double-check the Pacific feeds.
     
  15. Aug 24, 2016 #115 of 1288
    powrcow

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    Yes, I have the same problem now. Fortunately it's easy to change the wishlists. Also fortunate, it looks like college sports use the school name, not team name. But they still aren't marked new.

    Since sports, and as far as I can tell this is for ALL sports, are not showing up as "NEW" and "LIVE", lots of built in functionality is going to break.
     
  16. Aug 24, 2016 #116 of 1288
    bbrown9

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    My TiVo says it has guide data until 9/4. Does that mean it won't update to Rovi data until then?
     
  17. Aug 24, 2016 #117 of 1288
    lpwcomp

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    No.
     
  18. Aug 24, 2016 #118 of 1288
    Rob Helmerichs

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    To elaborate, when it loads the first Rovi data, it purges the Tribune data first.
     
  19. Aug 24, 2016 #119 of 1288
    n2lovell

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    The Original Airdate is missing from Rovi's sports programs, so its never treated as "New" by the scheduler. If you modify your wishlist or OnePass to no longer be "New Only", then it will record.
     
  20. Aug 24, 2016 #120 of 1288
    rainwater

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    You should already have the updated software. Loading of the new guide data is being done is stages.
     

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