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  1. Sep 15, 2016 #881 of 1288
    FitzAusTex

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    Yeah, Westworld on HBO was able to be created previously, but now can't be (premieres in October). I created one for High Maintenance months ago, but had to create a new 1P, since my original 1P wasn't going to record the premier this Friday or next week's episode 2.
     
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    NorthAlabama

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    thanks for the heads up about high maintenance.
     
  3. Sep 15, 2016 #883 of 1288
    jlb

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    My TiVoHD finally loaded the software today. Data appears downloaded. I assume now it needs to index as nothing is populated yet.

    How long should indexing take? could be a couple of hours, right?
     
  4. Sep 15, 2016 #884 of 1288
    Space

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    If you have already recorded those repeats at some point in the past, they should not record again. But yes, if they air a lot of repeats from prior seasons that you have not already recorded, then using "New & Repeat" can become a pain.

    With WMC, if a Series (similar to 1pass, I believe) is set to record an episode that you don't want it to record, you can tell it to not record it ahead of time. When you do this, that episode is added to the list of "already recorded" episodes for that Series and it will not try to record it ever again.

    So you can use the "New & Repeat" option, but you will have to go in there about once per week and tell it not to record a bunch of episodes that show up in the ToDo list (episodes from prior seasons that you did not record in the past, but you still don't want to record for some reason, like you already watched them live, or you recorded them with another device, or you just don't want to watch any of the episodes from older seasons).

    This is not a big deal if you are talking about a series that only has a few seasons you have not recorded, but for long-running series, where the channel airs a lot of repeats from all those older seasons, it can be a bit tedious to keep telling it to not record a bunch of episodes in the ToDo list.
     
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    JoeKustra

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    You might check System Information. It shows (on a Roamio) the time of the last indexing. I have noticed that index does not always follow the download even when there is something to index. I also have seen indexing 12 hours after a download.
     
  6. Sep 15, 2016 #886 of 1288
    rainwater

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    That isn't how it works on TiVos though. If you cancel an upcoming recording, the next time the scheduler runs, it will record the next airing of that recording you cancelled. That is why it is hard to cancel repeats if they are repeated a bunch of times.
     
  7. Sep 15, 2016 #887 of 1288
    jlb

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    Perhaps normal when there is a brand new set of data that has not yet indexed but I think my system info screen said something like December 31 for index date. Likely just a placeholder of some sort.

    Nonetheless, I did another restart, and will then do another forced connection and then just leave it be until later tonight to see if anything has changed.
     
  8. Sep 15, 2016 #888 of 1288
    rainwater

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    Try rearranging some OnePasses.
     
  9. Sep 15, 2016 #889 of 1288
    jlb

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    oh, great idea....

    I'll let the system boot up, will do a connection, and then do just that.
     
  10. Sep 15, 2016 #890 of 1288
    jlb

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    Ok so I rearranged some passes and it flew through that, presumably since it thinks it still is out of data. I went to the system info screen and it has an index date of Thursday, December 31. Based on the calendar, that prob is 2015. Do I just need to be patient at this point? Should I rerun Guided Setup? Please advise.

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  11. Sep 15, 2016 #891 of 1288
    lpwcomp

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    A TiVo only keeps 28 days of history, so unless an episode is still on the TiVo or was recorded within the last 28 days, it will be recorded again by a "New & Repeats" SP/1P.
     
  12. Sep 15, 2016 #892 of 1288
    Space

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    Well, then that would make it much less convenient. You'd have to let it record all those unwanted episodes, not an exciting prospect.

    I'd still use "New & Repeat" for all broadcast network shows. They almost never air repeats from previous seasons.

    One advantage that TiVo has over WMC is that the 28-day rule will still consider a show NEW if the OAD is within 28 days of the air date. Many of Rovi's one-off OAD mistakes are often only 1 or 2 weeks off, so TiVo should still consider them new.

    WMC only considers them new if they are within 7 days, so these OAD mistakes affect it much more.

    Just this week, the OAD for the results finale of "America's Got Talent" was off by a week (OAD: 9/7/2016, actual air date: 9/14/2016). Anyone on WMC with the setting of "New only" missed that episode, but I suspect TiVo users were fine because it was within the 28 day window.
     
  13. Sep 15, 2016 #893 of 1288
    TonyD79

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    I had to do two back to back forced connections to get data.
     
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    jlb

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    I've done about 3 or 4....

    But on the second try, it looked like it DLed a good deal of "stuff" and then i saw the LOADING increment up to 100% within about 20 min.

    Tries 3 and 4 are flying through without any delay it seems.
     
  15. Sep 15, 2016 #895 of 1288
    TonyD79

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    I am not having problems with Comedy Central. I see OADs all over on those shows. In fact, I used to get an errant TDCwTN the morning after for months and I am not getting that anymore.

    GSN is a mess. No OADs that I see at all.

    Live college sports and repeats of most sports (not MLB as far as I get) are a mess and the nightly shows on the networks but I am seeing OADs on them for this week starting today.
     
  16. Sep 15, 2016 #896 of 1288
    atmuscarella

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    Did your software upgrade to the new 11.0n.H1-01-2 version? Both my TiVo HD and Series 3 went through the change over and seem to be indexing properly.

    I do seem to be having an issue with the VCM connection on my TiVo HD it shows the last successful as Thursday December 31 7:00 pm
     
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    NorthAlabama

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    like others, i'm still having issues with @midnight on cc, and the late show on cbs, but only for this week's airings. next week seems to be resolved.

    our local reruns of jeopardy and wheel of fortune overnight and on weekends are recording. it's a pain, but easy enough to resolve while tivo has bigger issues.

    sill missing 7 new fall series passes that i'd like to add but are missing in search, my existing passes no longer recognize episodes are available on demand for streaming through the guide, and new wishlists fail to see upcoming matches when an actor is added to refine the search.
     
  18. Sep 15, 2016 #898 of 1288
    jlb

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    Yeah, it did....an exhuastive 3.5 hour process it seemed.

    I just wonder if the indexing "takes a lot of time" and I just need to be patient. It's super easy when you work from home to keep looking at it every 20 or 30 minutes......Or maybe I should re-run guuided setup?

    I will force another connection but then my gut is to wait until tomorrow to look again, or at least until about bed time tonight.

    All else looks great. Right SW version, right provider, right lineup name, etc.

    I just think I am antsy and need to give it time, I guess
     
  19. Sep 15, 2016 #899 of 1288
    jlb

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    TiVo Support wants me to rerun GS.....ok, I guess
     
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    BRiT wtfdotcom

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    I had to submit more lineup issues as the entire channel is wrong for next Tuesday. The jump in ticket number from 9/13 to 9/15 was 11,000! Thats a lot of major mess ups that users are reporting and they're having to fix in just 2 days.

    I'm tempted to code up a lineup comparison program that uses data from TV.com and Zap2It for the channels and shows I watch. Ideally it would scan 1 day ahead for the next 10 days and automatically submit the form. The first step would be basic item such as show names. The next step would be episode numbers and New/OAD.

    This could be fun, until Tivo gets their Rovi trash fixed.
     

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