Rovi Guide

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  1. Sep 1, 2016 #461 of 1288

    CoxInPHX COX Communications

    Jan 14, 2011
    Phoenix, AZ


    Yes, It is because they were originally recorded as Suggestions. My Mom's TiVo had about 50 recordings moved to Suggestions, all movies, I manage her TiVo and move good movies to My Shows using Keep Until..., so I do know for a fact they were all originally recorded as Suggestions.

    Have no idea what TiVo is doing here, there must have been a flag in the database (that TiVo may have overlooked) that marked them as Suggestions and the conversion moved them back.

    The really strange thing is this, Once you move them back out of Suggestions again, using Keep Until..., If you run a Clear Program Info & To Do List, that process will move them again to the Suggestion folder.

    Margret, suggested to Turn Off Suggestions before getting the conversion. My fear is that if the Suggestion folder is not available during the conversion, that the recordings would just be permanently deleted. When I get a chance I plan to test my theory.
    Last edited: Sep 1, 2016
  2. Sep 1, 2016 #462 of 1288

    jlb Go Pats!

    Dec 13, 2001
    Burlington, VT
    I know they are prob still beta testing the new guide data with TiVoHDs, but we are getting oh so close to the new fall season. Of course, the time is hopefully being well spent!
  3. Sep 1, 2016 #463 of 1288

    randian Active Member

    Jan 15, 2014
    If affects OnePasses too. My Once Upon a Time OP got a Spanish description. I had to delete it and create a new OP with an English description. That appears to imply different program IDs even though it's the same show, which would create problems recording. We'll see how it goes.
  4. Sep 1, 2016 #464 of 1288
    El Maestro

    El Maestro Active Member

    Nov 19, 2013
    My Roamio updated this morning after a message telling me I was out of guide data and to connect to TiVo. Everything apparently went fine and as best as I can tell my OnePasses are ok (need to do a deep look) but so far I noticed that the Rovi guide data (episode descriptions and the like) looks like it was written by a 3rd grader.
  5. Sep 1, 2016 #465 of 1288

    BobCamp1 Well-Known Member

    May 15, 2002


    I got the update yesterday.* Actually, the Tivo popped up an error message saying I had no guide data and I should connect.* So I did and it seemed to work OK.* I never got a message telling me what was happening, but it's a new unit so maybe that has something to do with it.* Since it was a new unit, I hadn't bothered customizing the channels I receive, so I did that last night.* I did get a ton of channel additions/removals.*

    I only had two Onepasses, so I didn't have any problems with that.* But I have the new bugs.* Shows are marked as "new" yet won't record unless the wishlist/Onepass is set to record new and repeats.* Some of the repeats are marked as "new" even though they aren't.* It's almost impossible to properly record Formula One using anything but manual selection in the guide, between the repeats also recording and the Onepass only picking up one airing.*

    It's weird because TV Guide appears to look better than the Bolt does.* It has the Live/new/repeats labeled correctly.* Of course, Tivo occasionally struggled to do this with Gracenote data too.* I think Tivo is/has been looking at the wrong part of the guide data this whole time, and this switch just exposed the flaws.*

    There's also one more annoying thing with the new data, but* I* don't* remember* what* it* is.*
  6. Sep 1, 2016 #466 of 1288

    JoeKustra in the other Alabama TCF Club

    Dec 7, 2012
    Ashland, PA...
    It's the way TiVo has decided to indicate content is coming from Rovi and not Gracenote.
  7. Sep 1, 2016 #467 of 1288

    mdavej Well-Known Member

    Aug 13, 2015
    No amount of code by one human being can overcome or work around the massive amount of missing and incorrect data that is the root of the problem. As the old adage goes, garbage in - garbage out. This will be a huge undertaking that I doubt TiVo/Rovi will be willing to tackle. We are going to have to live with what we've got for a very long time, or switch to an alternate solution. I was happy to see the news about the Gracenote powered Plex DVR. At the very least, it may light a fire under TiVo/Rovi.
  8. Sep 1, 2016 #468 of 1288

    TerpBE Go Terps!

    Jan 23, 2003
    Philly 'burbs
    I have a wishlist for title keyword "Action News". For some reason, now it doesn't think "Action News 11pm" is a match. This is really frustrating how things just broke, and sometimes there isn't even a good reason why they don't work.
  9. Sep 1, 2016 #469 of 1288

    mangochutney Member

    Apr 7, 2015
    For your entertainment ladies and gents:

    ...metadata created by experts...We dedicate hundreds of people across the globe, covering countries in North and Latin America, Europe and Asia, consistently processing millions of program and episode changes. Our expertly created editorial content and collection of images create eye-catching and engaging entertainment experiences to differentiate your product or service....
  10. Sep 1, 2016 #470 of 1288

    JoeKustra in the other Alabama TCF Club

    Dec 7, 2012
    Ashland, PA...
    That hurts.
  11. Sep 1, 2016 #471 of 1288

    lpwcomp Well-Known Member

    May 6, 2002
    Here's how Rovi/TiVo want it to go:

    Customer: "I'm having a problem since you switched to Rovi data."

    CSR: "But doesn't it look nice?"

    Customer: "Ooooh! Shiny!"

    <call terminated>
  12. Sep 1, 2016 #472 of 1288

    series5orpremier Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2013
    Does anyone have a channel logo for WGN America? I lost that as well as the channel logos for my local Fox broadcast stations.... replaced by call letters.
  13. Sep 1, 2016 #473 of 1288

    KingsFan6 Member

    Dec 31, 2015
    SF Bay Area
    I received a message on my box couple days ago that the Rovi guide would download within 24 hours. Is there a way to check that it happened, perhaps somewhere in Settings or System Information?
  14. Sep 1, 2016 #474 of 1288

    rainwater Active Member

    Sep 21, 2004
    All listings in the guide will have a "*" at the end. System Info will also show a "*" at the end of your lineup name.
  15. Sep 1, 2016 #475 of 1288

    lpwcomp Well-Known Member

    May 6, 2002
    Look at full description for an entry in the guide. If it has an * at the end, it is Rovi.
  16. Sep 1, 2016 #476 of 1288

    TonyD79 Well-Known Member

    Jan 4, 2002
    Columbia, MD
    I no gots on bolt either.
  17. Sep 1, 2016 #477 of 1288

    tim1724 Active Member

    Jul 3, 2007
    Temple City, CA
    My Roamio Pro switched over to the Rovi guide data yesterday. So far so good. Everything that was scheduled to record before is scheduled to record now. (But I'll have to cancel Sunday's South Park marathon all over again. *sigh*) One channel changed numbers.. it's just some dumb music channel so I didn't bother to even look to see which number was correct. The rest of my lineup is unchanged aside from switching to the -W and -E names. (Oddly the channel list is showing some channels with old names and other channels with new names. E.g., BETP alongside USA-W. I guess it's not done updating.)
  18. Sep 1, 2016 #478 of 1288
    jth tv

    jth tv Well-Known Member

    Nov 15, 2014
    I'm using an Roamio Basic with an Antenna I don't see a *, which specific line is it ? Just curious.
  19. Sep 1, 2016 #479 of 1288

    TrooperOrange New Member

    Apr 22, 2012
    I noticed this issue with the F1 content as well. I would up creating a wish list for "Formula One" and now it is going to record practice, qualifying and the race. Of course it is also catching other things like pre/post race shows.
  20. Sep 1, 2016 #480 of 1288

    astrohip Well-Known Raconteur TCF Club

    Jan 6, 2003
    Ran into my first significant glitch on the Rovi data: I had been recording the entire Star Trek series on one of my local channels, since they were showing a re-mastered, uncut, cleaned-up version.

    The new Rovi guide calls it "Star Trek: The Original Series", whereas the old guide simply called it "Star Trek". Old OP didn't work, I had to create a new OP.

    So anyone recording ST from the "Heroes & Icons Network" will need to create a new OP.

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