Rovi Guide

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  1. Aug 25, 2016 #181 of 1288
    rainwater

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    New and Live are different though. TiVo seems to consider something live when a sports event is set to the category "Sports->Sports Event" and the original air date is set to the current date. So in the end, the issue still seems to be the original air date is wrong. I think it is some type of conversion issue, since as you say, TV Guide knows when something is live.
     
  2. Aug 25, 2016 #182 of 1288
    morac

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    The Rovi data has a channel that I didn't even know I was getting since it was missing from the Gracenote data, so from that perspective the Rovi data is already superior.

    We'll have to see how the actual data is though.
     
  3. Aug 25, 2016 #183 of 1288
    JoeKustra

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    At this time, the Gracenote data inside TiVo also knows when an event is live. It doesn't tell you, however, unless you want to record it. Then you get prompted to add more time. It shows as live on zap2it, but just new on a TiVo.
     
  4. Aug 25, 2016 #184 of 1288
    lpwcomp

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    :rolleyes:
     
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    lpwcomp

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    That being the case, why do the problems still exist?

    The fact is that some people seem to to marveling at the fact that they are getting missing channels added. While nice, this is only one of the problems.
     
  6. Aug 25, 2016 #186 of 1288
    rainwater

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    The data is not universal. For instance, for a cable MSO, the MSO may control the channel lineup itself. So it may not match TVGuide's. Also, TiVo clearly has to manipulate the data they get from Rovi to match TiVo's categories and who knows what else. So the "quality" can vary depending on what the company is doing with the data.
     
  7. Aug 25, 2016 #187 of 1288
    TonyD79

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    Because they are changing at the same time we are. You just claimed they don't care about the consumer electronics business yet they have already stated that CE is very important to them as a means to MSO. And the changes are happening rapidly.

    That is evidence that they care.

    Remember, Rovi never had a consumer facing aspect. Their customers were systems who may or may not have cared. Now they are aligning with TiVo, whose whole business is based in accurate data.
     
  8. Aug 25, 2016 #188 of 1288
    JoeKustra

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    That's so true. It's why I'm a bit scared too.
     
  9. Aug 25, 2016 #189 of 1288
    modnar

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    I looked at the tvguide.com data, and it has all the channels (didn't check line by line, but looks good) for me, but TiVo is still missing dozens (at least 65). So, there's no guarantee that channels listed for you on that site will be part of the guide data. There are probably several complicated steps that could cause other issues.
     
  10. Aug 25, 2016 #190 of 1288
    krkaufman

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    Well, there was Windows Media Center. And whatever MS was doing with program guide data on the Xbox One.
     
  11. Aug 25, 2016 #191 of 1288
    Dan203

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    By the time they switched to Rovi data media center had already been discontinued, so I doubt they put any work into fixing up the data. They just wanted something cheaper because all the people who were running MCE on Win7 and Win8 expected it to continue working until the OS hit EOL.
     
  12. Aug 25, 2016 #192 of 1288
    swyman18

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    While I don't want to be too quick to pat Rovi on the back, I agree it is a good sign that several channels that were missing/inacurate on tvguide.com for many months (perhaps even years) are suddenly getting updated now. I doubt that is just coincidence.

    Of course, I have yet to get the guide update on my Tivo, so I may feel differently if things are a mess.
     
  13. Aug 25, 2016 #193 of 1288
    tampa8

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    Lol from a great show.
     
  14. Aug 25, 2016 #194 of 1288
    TonyD79

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    Agreed.
     
  15. Aug 25, 2016 #195 of 1288
    ParityBit

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    Is there any easy way to know if I was switched over or not? I have not tried to force it or anything, so I am wondering if it happened already or something I can look for.
     
  16. Aug 25, 2016 #196 of 1288
    TivoJD

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    If you have to repeat guided setup, does that interfere at all with cable card pairing?
     
  17. Aug 25, 2016 #197 of 1288
    Roderigo

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    No. Rerunning Guided Setup doesn't impact the CableCARD at all.
     
  18. Aug 25, 2016 #198 of 1288
    rainwater

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    No, it will show you the Cablecard options (in case you wanted to pair it during setup), but you can just skip that section. Your card shouldn't get unpaired during the process.
     
  19. Aug 25, 2016 #199 of 1288
    lpwcomp

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    Bring up the full info for something in the guide. If there is an * at the end of the description, you've been converted.
     
  20. Aug 25, 2016 #200 of 1288
    schatham

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    You'll get a message before the conversion, so you'll know it's coming. Check your message folder. I received my message today so I assume by morning I'll have the new guide.
     

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