Roamio Plus Discontinued ... (rant)

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by motech, Dec 3, 2015.

  1. Bigg

    Bigg Cord Cutter

    Oct 30, 2003


    If they're putting out that kind of coin, they may as well get the 3TB model.

    Yeah, it would likely be rackmounted. I guess it could just be on a shelf behind a blank panel, since the user doesn't interact with it.
  2. HobokenSkier

    HobokenSkier Well-Known Member

    Oct 14, 2015
    NY, NY
    Spot the TiVo and TA.
  3. mad.gunsmith

    mad.gunsmith New Member

    Jul 1, 2010
    looks cool :up:
  4. Bigg

    Bigg Cord Cutter

    Oct 30, 2003
    The TiVo is about 2/3 of the way down. That's the easy part. Is the TA right below it? New meaning to a rack in the closet. :D
  5. jonw747

    jonw747 Active Member

    Aug 2, 2015


    I get the impression people (even wealthy people) don't like paying CI's for straight labor so the CI's do what they can to get their profit margin out of the equipment sales ... about 50/50.

    Think about it? You hire a realtor, you don't pay them until the house sells. Interior decorators often get paid based on a % of the stuff you buy. Travel agents (do they still exists?) got a % of your airline tickets and other fees.

    Skilled hourly labor is expensive and nobody likes paying it, but people also don't like paying more for something when they can click click at Amazon and its delivered the next day. On top of that, anybody who's ever plugged an AV system together and configured a remote figures they can be a Custom Integrator too, so there are a great deal of "trunk slammers" in the industry without enough experience to even figure out a profit margin correctly.

    If there was a private label DVR, CI's would probably all flock to that rather than deal with TiVo who will run sales and deal directly with "DIY'ers" such as ourselves.
  6. zalusky

    zalusky Well-Known Member TCF Club

    Apr 5, 2002
    Cupertino, CA
    I do HATE the obfuscating method that many companies/people use for income. I would rather pay a provider on a straight hourly basis and have the materials at their lowest rates.
  7. Bigg

    Bigg Cord Cutter

    Oct 30, 2003
    Agreed. But it's not just people installing Home Theater setups. So many things have costs hidden in all sorts of weird places. Look at amusement parks with $20 tickets and $30 pizzas. Somebody has to fix the roller coaster. Or razor blades. The cable and satellite providers all have "free" or $49 installations when it costs $150 just to have the guy show up at the door, before he even puts a dish or cable drop up, do a bunch of wiring, set the boxes up, and activate and test it all. It's not free. And don't even get me started on healthcare. There are hidden costs all over the place in a hospital.

    Cell phone contracts might be the single thing I can think of that have gotten significantly MORE transparent about where the costs really are since they no longer include the phones in the plans, and you have to choose whether to pay for them or finance them.
  8. wkearney99

    wkearney99 Bill Kearney

    Dec 5, 2003
    What's galling is paying hourly for someone to be learning on the job. That and learning how to automate living in a larger house (while they're some kid living in an apartment). Don't get me wrong, I've been that kid in the apartment. Automation has had such fits-and-starts of failed potential that customers are rightly skeptical. Tivo, however, has continued to be a reliable solution. One that customers love and a smart CI would likely want to ride that wave of goodwill vs some private-labeled hack.

    The trouble with excessively itemizing bills is time wasted quibbling over individual line items. Profit only comes after materials and overhead get paid. Breaking all those out invites unwelcome scrutiny that has no real bearing on the job being done. Which just wastes time for both the customer and the supplier alike. It's a challenge, to be sure.

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