Revolution--S01E03--10/01/2012--"No Quarter"

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  1. Oct 4, 2012 #121 of 183
    morac

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    The iPhone gets its time from the cell network, so my take is that the date and time were wrong,

    As for the battery, the fact that it still worked makes me think that the issue with electricity is that electrons are locked in place. That would explain the lack of electricity working as well as the lack of any leaking in the battery. Though that wouldn't explain why electricity still works inside the human body.
     
  2. Oct 4, 2012 #122 of 183
    cheesesteak

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    That was so ridiculously stupid that it was actually funny.
     
  3. Oct 4, 2012 #123 of 183
    Bierboy

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    Double thumbs up for me....that shot through the car door was awesome...
     
  4. Oct 4, 2012 #124 of 183
    Bierboy

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    I just can't get past the obvious fact that his glasses are SO fake...
     
  5. Oct 4, 2012 #125 of 183
    danterner

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    Someone once pointed out something to me about glasses on television shows, and now that I know it I can't stop looking for it (and I see it all the time) -- very often, you can see reflections of prompters and monitors (or reflections of the greenscreen itself) in actors' glasses. Look for glowing green squarish reflections. They're often edited out in post, but frequently get missed.
     
  6. Oct 4, 2012 #126 of 183
    voripteth

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    The premise that the lack of electricity causes the downfall of society I find hard to swallow. We did just fine for thousands of years before electrification. Will it be a pain to go back to using older technologies? Sure! Somehow the series completely ignores the resourcefulness of humanity.

    Take bullets for example. Revolution says they can't be made any more yet this Wikipedia article says there were invented in the 1800's before electricity.

    My father restores antique cars so I went to many antique car shows growing up and saw dozens steam powered cars, trucks and tractors in my local area. Steam powered trains would certainly still be around as well. Heck, why don't we see bicycles everywhere?

    Perhaps there will be explanations in future episodes but for now the premise feels poorly thought through.
     
  7. Oct 4, 2012 #127 of 183
    allan

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    My great-great grandfather probably shot and ate squirrels. I don't have a gun, probably couldn't hit the broadside of a barn, and have no clue how to prepare a squirrel, or even start a fire to cook one without electricity. I doubt that any of my neighbors could either. Sure, humanity will survive, but a lot of indivdual humans won't and I could easily see the disruptions bringing down society as we know it.
     
  8. Oct 4, 2012 #128 of 183
    Bierboy

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  9. Oct 4, 2012 #129 of 183
    TAsunder

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    Well, let's put it this way... a lot of people can see it happening and don't feel the need for the story to fill in the gaps. But some people don't see it happening. Which goes to my original point... they should show it even if it's what some people assumed would happen. The more we talk about it, however, the more convinced I am that the writers don't think deeply about such things. The show has a great opportunity to address a lot of interesting questions about a world like they've set up, but seems only interested in swashbuckling, whiny teens, and boogeymen so far.
     
  10. Oct 4, 2012 #130 of 183
    pmyers

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    Exactly. Those people "grew out" of the old ways and into an electric era. They already possed the required skills to survive. Most people don't possess any of those skills today because we haven't known anything different than what we've grown up with.
     
  11. Oct 4, 2012 #131 of 183
    DreadPirateRob

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    Seriously.
     
  12. Oct 4, 2012 #132 of 183
    pmyers

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    The Iphone discussion did leave me with a question.....I wonder how far reaching this "blackout" is. We know that planes fell from the sky but what about satellites? Are they still in orbit or did those come crashing down too?
     
  13. Oct 4, 2012 #133 of 183
    TAsunder

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    I think you would be surprised at how many people have such skills. Mostly hipsters. I hope you will all welcome the hipster overlords who have been practicing whole hog butchering, pickling, and mustache growing of late. Cue the Portlandia dream of the 1890's sketch.
     
  14. Oct 4, 2012 #134 of 183
    Win Joy Jr

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    Did the "Event" extend past the atmosphere? If so, how far? If it did not, then the sats in orbit would safe and be floating along if their orbits are high enough. Others would have re-enterd and burned up. ISS? not sure if it would still be in orbit. i wonder what happened to the crew? did they abondon the station and do a blind re-entry? After 15 years of no communications from the ground, the ones still in orbit would be dead from no management, so solar array and battery management would not have been done, leading to electrical systems failures.

    It seems the laws of physics regarding gravity and momentum are not affected, so nothing tells me that they would have fallen from orbit...
     
  15. Oct 4, 2012 #135 of 183
    dtle

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    First of all, here's a quote: "Any society is only three square meals away from revolution"

    Secondly, we saw that Monroe and Miles killed the thugs six months after the blackout, and picking the 3rd guy. I assumed as they travel to Chicago, they will pick up more men for their militia. Once they get there, there will be a power vacuum, and they will gradually rule the area.

    As for "the Event", I've wondering since the 1st episode, if there's any significant to the order in which the blackout started. As you can see from the Earth view, it started on the East Coast and then move to the West Coast, instead of going dark all of the sudden. Maybe it's just done for dramatic effect.
     
  16. Oct 4, 2012 #136 of 183
    Win Joy Jr

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    The local militia did not adapt, they saw an opportunity and seized it. And you seem to be thinking that the 2 are happening in close time proximity to the other. I do not think that happened, nor have we seen any information to draw that conclusion. The US Government may have fallen / evaporated in a short time and the militia did not start to rise until weeks/months/years after the event.
     
  17. Oct 4, 2012 #137 of 183
    marksman

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    You don't even know when Monroe took power. Everything had to collapse before rebuilding started. It probably took a while for Monroe to get any kind of power. By that time the military was long gone. The militias gained power after they were able to meet their basic needs and grow from there.

    Most soldiers would have left before basic needs were met or they could do anything useful. You really seem to think soldiers are robots and not human beings.

    If Monroe took over five years in cant you see how that is vastly different from paid soldiers doing something in the wake of the black out?
     
  18. Oct 4, 2012 #138 of 183
    TAsunder

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    It is still not clear to me why anyone thinks that Monroe is able to meet the basic needs of people. Or do you just mean of his own militia? That is reasonable, but so far it doesn't seem like the random farm collectives are actually getting anything out of the relationship. It's kind of a seven samurai situation as far as I can tell. And I have no doubt they will rip off seven samurai at least once this season.
     
  19. Oct 4, 2012 #139 of 183
    pmyers

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    I believe....that protection was mentioned when the milita came to the "sub division". I could be wrong though.

    So far, the relationship does seem to be severly one sided.
     
  20. Oct 4, 2012 #140 of 183
    TAsunder

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    I think you meant, "protection" ... and I assume you mentally said it with a cliched mafia accent. :p
     

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