Revolution - 10/15/12 "Soul Train"

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  1. garyh

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    Just to be fun and nitpicky - I do like the show well enough to keep watching -

    If all electrical processes are disrupted, including chemical reactions to generate current such as batteries AND both the human (and animal for that matter) heart and brain both use electrical currents to function, then shouldn't everyone have dropped dead instantly at the time of the blackout?

    Just a fun topic of conversation, I can suspend disbelief pretty successfully for tv shows. I don't even question how Monroe could organize and maintain dictatorial control of 1/4th of the U.S. containing probably half the population with no modern communications. The only "nation" that would be feasible would be Texas, and definately not as a dictatorship.
     
  2. pmyers

    pmyers Well-Known Member

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    I don't agree with your premise of chemical reactions being disrupted. I believe it's just power/circuit related.
     
  3. Stormspace

    Stormspace Electrocuted by TiVo

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    What if the dampening field I like to call the new broadcast power plant disrupts certain frequencies?

    The average human body has a frequency that ranges between 62 to 68 MHz.
    The human brain's frequency is higher at 72 to 90 MHz.

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    In most parts of the world this is 50 Hz, although in the Americas it is typically 60 Hz. Current usage by country or region is given in the list of mains power around the world.

    Apparently lightning has no frequency so wouldn't be affected.

    So the "whatever it is" generates a wave or waves that cancels out the frequencies used for electrical current. These waves are pervasive and cannot be blocked by intervening structures, but can be canceled out by these amulets that apparently have a power supply that never depletes.
     
  4. mwhip

    mwhip All better

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    Is it all that good? No. But I will still watch to see play out of all 12 amulets and maybe get more info on the districts and maybe what kind of people command those areas.
     
  5. GAViewer

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    Yes lightning is direct current and doesn't have a frequency, however currents from batteries are direct and don't have a frequency either. I am very curious about what technobabble they came up to explain why technology based currents both mechanical and chemical are stopped but not natural currents like living beings use, lightning etc.
     
  6. Ereth

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    And the missing 13th District and the annual Power Games?
     
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  8. pmyers

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    Again I would ask, why you think chemical reactions are being stopped? Have we had any indication that they have?
     
  9. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

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    So it shuts them down but doesn't fry the circuits? So it doesn't do permanent damage like an EMP would?
     
  10. morac

    morac Cat God

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    Because that's how batteries generate electricity (via chemical processes).
     
  11. pmyers

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    I understand that, but we have not been shown anything that shows that process not working... For all we know, a charged battery (which might be hard to find after 15 years) could still generate a spark, but whatever you were trying to power, that had electronics still wouldn't work. Of course the amulets are a different story.

    You could be right, I'm just saying that we haven't seen that.

    I look at it like some type of permanent, non-destructive, EMP thing that prevents electronics from working. But if that EMP is disrupted (by the amulets) then everything is still in working order and will power up like the iPhone did.
     
  12. GAViewer

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    Exactly, also chemical processes create electricity in fuel cells which while not mentioned, I would assume don't work as well, or people would be using them for power. That is why I said "technology based currents." The chemical processes in living bodies that create small currents are obviously still working since all the animals didn't die. However I do wonder about large currents electric eels can create.
     
  13. pmyers

    pmyers Well-Known Member

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    to power what? If nothing that uses electricy works, what good is the actual power?

    It's not that the world just lost power like a black out, its that everything that used power stopped working.
     
  14. GAViewer

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    Maybe, but I think in world of "Revolution" all major electric currents have stopped. You can't get much simpler than a couple of wires and a light bulb, if a battery or a fuel cell makes current then when the wires are hooked to it the light bulb is going to glow.
     
  15. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

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    We've been shown (with the iPhone and Discman) that those things still work when power is restored. So there's something preventing the power from flowing through the circuits.
     
  16. Ereth

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    It is difficult to find details, but I haven't seen anything that says definitively whether or not the electronics would function afterwards, and most speculation is that the microwaves are frying the circuits so that those particular devices would not work afterwards.

    A Slashdot poster did notice, however, that the fluorescent lights were unaffected and remained on in the room where the computers were fried.
     
  17. morac

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    An EMP actually burns out the wiring in devices by inducing an obscene amount of current to flow through all the wires/circuits in a device at once. That's what makes it destructive since the devices are useless at that point. That's also why shielded devices aren't affected.

    Ignoring the destruction part, if the issue here was an EMP like device, it wouldn't work on shielded equipment. The only cause that makes "sense" would be something that prevents electrons from flowing, but since lightning still exists and people aren't dropping dead it would have to be very specifically targeted and have the ability to pass through Faraday cages.

    There are real world things that can prevent electron flow, such as freezing something to absolute zero, but there's nothing that can affect only specific items worldwide. Basically it would be "magic" since nothing like that exists in the real world, despite what the show creators say.
     
  18. allan

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    Besides, if anything was being frozen to absolute zero, I think people would notice. At least outside Canada. :D
     
  19. GAViewer

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    In the real world, third law of thermodynamics says absolute zero is unattainable. But when you get close to it, electrical resistance becomes zero, (i.e. superconductors). So current not only doesn't stop, it flows without any loses.
     
  20. morac

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    At absolute zero, resistance becomes zero because all particle movement stops. So there's no resistance, but also no flow of electrons. Moot point though since like you said, it's impossible.

    On a side note, not all materials are superconductors at very cold temperatures.
     

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