Replacing fried Tivo hard drive?

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  1. spinnaker

    spinnaker New Member

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    I have a feeling my DTV Hughes Series 2 has bit the dust. The Tivo has been acting strange, not listing the Now Playing List properly so I decided to to a Clear Everything.

    It has been 6 hours and it is still running. I tried a power off reset but it takes it right back to the screen that says it is clearing everything.

    I have an old 5G drive laying around. I realize that is not going to get me a whole lot of recording time but at least it might get me up and running. And if I can get this working I will buy a larger drive.

    Most of the instructions I see require a working harddrive Tivo to backup. Maybe I should have done this years ago but that is water under the bridge now.

    Anywhere else I can get an image for this Tivo? I would this psot

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=256083

    but the link in the post is no longer any good.
     
  2. ggieseke

    ggieseke Well-Known Member

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  3. jrtroo

    jrtroo Chill- its just TV

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    I have made a good image from a failing drive before.

    I would try a kickstart before clear and delete. 54 is the one to use first, from my memory.

    If that does not work, I would save an image and then use the hdd tools by the manufacturer.

    Finally, I would try the save image.

    Though, begging for a new one and just dumping the old drive will work too. :)
     
  4. spinnaker

    spinnaker New Member

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    Sorry but what do you mean by I would try a "kickstart before clear and delete. 54 is the one to use first, from my memory".
     
  5. spinnaker

    spinnaker New Member

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    Never mind found it here

    http://www.weaknees.com/tivo-kickstart-codes.php

    but it does not seem to start the test.

    Here is what I do.

    Plug in tivo

    Hold the pause button down.

    First yellow light lites and then 2nd almost immediately.

    Release pause

    press 5 then 4.
     
  6. spinnaker

    spinnaker New Member

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    Well at least I got something now. I could not get 54 to work so I tried 57 as per another post. I understand that others with Hughes had trouble with 54 A screen came up saying it was installing updates.

    After a few reboots a green screen came up that says A severe error has occurred. Please leave the recorder plugged in and connected to the phone for the next 3 hours while the recorder attempts to repair itself.

    It would be nice if tivo displayed something to the screen to let you know it was working :)
     
  7. spinnaker

    spinnaker New Member

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    Well it is back to the old clearing and deleting everything. I guess I will let it run.
     
  8. spinnaker

    spinnaker New Member

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    Tivo has risen from the dead! Thanks to jrtroo for the tip on the kick start. That seems to have done it even though I could not get the HD test to work.

    These are amazing machines.

    I think I will go buy a upgrade harddrive.
     
  9. unitron

    unitron Well-Known Member

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    54 invokes the SMART routines built into the drive itself, which don't look at the TiVo, or any other, software on the drive.

    The only time I used it I created an unneccesary problem for myself.
    Better to pull the drive, stick it in a computer, and boot from a floppy or cd with the drive manufacturer's diagnostics on it and run those.

    58 and 57 cause the TiVo to examine and possible straighten out the TiVo software, but that's only a cure if the drive itself is still good, although if the drive hasn't finished going bad, it might fix things long enough to let you copy to a new drive or, in a non-satellite TiVo, copy the shows off to computer via TiVo Desktop.
     
  10. PIANOCRAT

    PIANOCRAT New Member

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    The drive failed.

    I ended up placing the hard drive in a plastic bag, and freezing it for a day. Reinstalled the drive-no joy. Several hours later--after the drive had warmed to room temp, IT WORKED!!

    My S3THX Tivo booted; all shows/season pass info available. I immediately pulled the drive and cloned it to a WD 1tb AVS drive. The new drive is running perfectly, and is both quieter and uses less power than the original Tivo drive.

    I post all this because I was about to pull the trigger and purchase the "Instant Cake" software for my S3 Tivo when I decided to try the hard drive freeze technique.

    I had nothing to lose at this point. And it worked.

    Data recovery specialists use the freeze technique as a "last ditch" effort, and, for me, it worked.

    Lesson Learned, and, needless to say, I will be replacing my Tivo hard drives every two years--before they fail.
     
  11. unitron

    unitron Well-Known Member

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    Glad to hear it worked for you. Ordinarily one hooks up the frozen drive and immediately tries to copy it off to another drive before it heats back up.

    I prefer to wrap the drive in a couple of layers of paper towel, both to intercept any moisture before it condenses on the cold metal, especially any that could get through the drives air filter and lock up the moving parts inside with ice, and to let you carry it from the freezer to the workbench without freezing your hands.:)
     

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