Renaming the Original "S3"

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by d_anders, Aug 10, 2007.

  1. d_anders

    d_anders Sr Legacy Member

    Oct 12, 2000
    Twin Cities...


    On these boards in particular, we need to rename or simply call the S3 as something other than the "S3".

    We all need to agree on the following:

    1) The TiVoHD is a TiVo Series3 HDTV DVR and it is an S3 based "architecture" box. Even on the packaging for the TiVO HD, it has a logo on it that states "S3 Architecture".

    2) TiVoHD is a different box than the original/premium S3 unit.

    So that said, what should the we call "S3"... I really don't care, maybe TiVo does and original S3 owners do, so I would like them to chime in.

    TiVoPony, is there an official classification now? How are you doing it internally? What does TiVo suggest/recommend?

    S3O (Series 3 Original)? S3P (Series 3 Premium)?
  2. AGBulls

    AGBulls New Member

    Jul 30, 2007
    Chicago, IL
    Based on posts throughout the forums, I thought everyone had already on:

    Tivo HD and Series 3.

    Am I crazy?
  3. d_anders

    d_anders Sr Legacy Member

    Oct 12, 2000
    Twin Cities...
    Nope, you are certainly not. That's what people having been using, but some people are using the two interchangably sometimes and it's confusing.

    I've seen a number of posts as "S3 TiVOHD"...of course, I assume it's a TiVOHD, but here lies the confusion, particularily for new owners, new to TiVO.

    A Series 3 TiVo is a Tivo HD unit.
    The TiVoHD is a Series 3.

    Wouldn't this be easier.

    An S3O TiVo is a TiVo HD unit.
    The TiVoHD is a Series 3 TiVo, but it's not the
    The S3O (or whatever better ancronym fits) is a Series 3 TiVo, and it's the original and first released Series 3.

    You're probably right, it's probably not worth trying to convince others to change learned behavior over these past two weeks.

    A simple clarification by TiVo would help and people would change....whether TiVo wants to do this or not is really their matter. I think it would help.
  4. vman41

    vman41 Omega Consumer

    Jun 18, 2002
    Why not call it a THX S3? The THX certification is something they made a big deal out of when first released.
  5. aus1ander

    aus1ander New Member

    Sep 17, 2004


    Well, its clear on the Tivo website that the nomenclature is:

    TiVoHD DVR.
    TiVo Series 3 HD DVR.

    Honestly, I think they wanted a buzz name for the new box, and whats better than ultra-simple: TiVoHD. And they never bothered to rename the first box. Clearly, they are both based on the Series 3 platform.

    This is how I would name it:
    (Series 3) TiVoHD
    (Series 3) Ultimate TiVoHD (or Series 3 Premium TiVoHD).

    Or you just name it by the number of hours:
    (Series 3) TiVoHD 180 hr DVR.
    (Series 3) TiVoHD 300 hr DVR.

    I put "Series 3" in parentheses because it could be dropped altogether. The public doesn't know what "Series 3" really means and all they care about is the DVR is built for HD. Therefore, I think it makes logical sense for TiVo to drop the "Series 3" in the name for TiVoHD in general.
  6. jrm01

    jrm01 New Member

    Oct 17, 2003
    S3 and THD.
  7. vman41

    vman41 Omega Consumer

    Jun 18, 2002
    The THX certified one and the one with Total Harmonic Distortion. :D
  8. Dajad

    Dajad Active Member

    Oct 7, 1999
    I call the new one an S3-lite, cause that's what it is to me.

  9. kdmorse

    kdmorse Well-Known Member TCF Club

    Jan 29, 2001
    Germantown, MD
    We have two products.

    One is named the Series 3, and is often abbreviated S3.
    One is named the TivoHD, and is sometimes abbreviated THD.

    And while we know the TivoHD is based on the S3, it does not contain Series 3 anywhere in it's official product name - it is not called a Series 3.

    So, if one says Series 3, or S3, there is no real confusion. That refers only to the original S3 unit, no confusion there.
    If one says TivoHD or THD, again, that specificly referes to one unit, the TivoHD, no confusion.
    S3-Lite as a nickname seems to have stuck, so if someone says S3-Lite, they are referring to the Tivo HD.

    People do sometimes get into trouble when they say they have a HD Tivo. This could refer to the S3, the TivoHD, or even a HR10-250. But that confusion existed long before the TivoHD hit the market.

    The only real question is - do we want to rename the S3 forum to make it clear it includes the TivoHD?

  10. Jedi4141

    Jedi4141 Member

    Jun 19, 2006
    How about Series 3 and Tivo not-quite-a-real-Series3-HD? :D :D

    Just my 2 cents.
  11. Ishma

    Ishma New Member

    Sep 8, 2006
    I vote for...


    It will work. As long as there is consistency.
  12. wmcbrine

    wmcbrine Well-Known Mumbler

    Aug 2, 2003
    "Classic S3". It's not like they're gonna keep making them.
  13. MickeS

    MickeS Active Member

    Dec 26, 2002
    No need to rename. Series 3 and TiVoHD or S3 and THD works fine.
  14. GoHokies!

    GoHokies! O2->CO2 Converter

    Sep 21, 2005
    Concur, that's what I've been using (along with pretty much everyone else it seems).
  15. vman41

    vman41 Omega Consumer

    Jun 18, 2002
    So why didn't they make the definitive name largest on the black box:

    TiVo HD
    Series 3 - Dgital Media Recorder
  16. Ishma

    Ishma New Member

    Sep 8, 2006
    Likely didn't know what the name of the new "THD" would be called when they did the packaging.
  17. megazone

    megazone Hardcore TiVo Geek

    Mar 3, 2002
    The original box is the S3 or Series3. The new box is the TiVo HD (it has a space!) or THD, or just 'HD' really.

    That's what I use, and I'm not changing. ;-)
  18. jrm01

    jrm01 New Member

    Oct 17, 2003
    Just to add to the confusion: Tivo on their website calls them:

    Tivo HD
    Tivo Series3 HD

    I still think S3 and THD are appropriate shortcuts.
  19. classicsat

    classicsat Astute User

    Feb 18, 2004
    Ontario Canada.
    I have be calling it the original Series 3 "Classic". THD Plus also comes to mind.
  20. vstone

    vstone Active Member

    May 11, 2002
    I think we should call the new unit "Son of S3" or maybe "I was a Teenage S3." Maybe "Rambo, S3 Part 2." or "S3 II, The Wrath of Cablecard." How about "The S3 That Devoured Mergatroid." That last one for for you Maynard G. Krebs fans.

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