Remote Control Woes

Discussion in 'TiVo Bolt DVR/Streamer' started by Patrick Linley, Jan 25, 2018.

  1. Patrick Linley

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    I got a new 3TB Bolt Vox in the other day... love it! And I really like the remote, but I cannot for the life of me, get it to control the volume on my old Bose Lifestyle AV35 system... the old Bose remote has seen it's better days, so no, I don't want to use it for everything anymore anyway. Bose tech support tells me that although the factory remote is RF, this system will - by default receive IR commands from any "compatible" universal remote... there is not option in the Bose menu to turn IR on or off... they said it should just WORK, without connecting an IR emitter or anything... but I have tried the Bose AV codes listed for the Bolt, as well as the 1999+volume up every 2 seconds (for over 40 minutes) trying to get it to respond... no luck!!! NEITHER could I get an old DirecTV remote to control the Bose with it's codes! I thought surely, as long as DirecTV had been around, that one should work (thinking that the Bolt may not be compatible with an 8 year old Bose)... soooo, either the IR is just broken on this Bose, OR Bose support is telling me wrong, OR the vox remote is just not compatible (neither is the DirecTV remote).... question is, will the TiVo Slide Pro Remote for TiVo BOLT DVR remote work with the Bose V35? or will I have to try something like a Harmony remote (which I expect is not as "Tivo Friendly", or an expensive IR to serial converter - before I consider throwing this Bose in the garbage and getting a darn Sony receiver and replacing all my speakers as a last resort??!! Help!
     
  2. mdavej

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    The code for your Bose on your DirecTV remote is Audio 1229 (31229). It won't do anything until you set up volume punch thru (something like Mute-OK, Vol+, I forget the exact procedure). I don't know the Tivo equivalent, but that's a very common and old code, so it should be there.

    I often have trouble changing codes on my Tivo remotes. They tend to hang on to the first code and ignore subsequent changes. So I have to do a full reset of the remote first.
     
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  3. Edmund

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    Bose Wave radio and cinemate are common codes find in universal and oem remotes. The Lifestyle code set was never preprogrammed into many universal remotes. You had to use the bose base to blink the IR commands so a learning remote could capture it. UEI had upgrade code that they could load over the phone, and few models like the original OFA urc-8820, 6820, and 10820 universal remotes had the code preprogrammed in, which was aud 1355, 1356, and 1357.

    RC: URC-200 and Bose LS35
     
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  4. Patrick Linley

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    Sounds like (hopefully) then, the TiVo Slide Pro Remote for TiVo BOLT DVR remote will work!??

    RE the DirecTV remote test... the 31229 DOES make that remote turn the V35 off and on, and the channel up/down makes it blink (and do nothing), but the VOLUME does NOT work!??
     
  5. mdavej

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    I haven't had Directv in years, so I don't remember the procedure. But Edmund can probably fill in the blanks. Has something to do with a TV device being programmed AND and Audio device AND punch thru being enabled to get VOL working. Otherwise, I've steered you wrong and one of Edmund's codes is a better fit.
     
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  6. Edmund

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    To get the direct volume working in single device do the following, first there has to be a tv code programmed to the tv device:

    1. av1 or av2

    2. press and hold MUTE & SELECT, wait for two blinks, release

    3. enter 9 9 3

    4. press VOL DOWN

    If you want bose volume in ALL devices do the following instead:

    1. av1 or av2

    2. press and hold MUTE & SELECT, wait for two blinks, release

    3. enter 9 9 3

    4. press SELECT
     
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  7. Patrick Linley

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    Interesting, but again, the main reason for my trying the DTV remote was to ensure that my Bose V35 would receive any IR commands at all... that was proven by the DTV remote code given above working well enough to power the V35 off... so on to the hopeful ultimate solution... does this mean that when my " TiVo Slide Pro Remote for TiVo BOLT DVR" comes in, it will work for my Bolt+ AND my Bose V35? If so, do you know the procedure to get that going? Thanks so much guys!!
     
  8. mdavej

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    I don’t know what else to say. I told you the code is most likely there and to do a full reset between tries. The TiVo codes I see for Bose are 1007, 1185, 1131. I could analyze the above codes and compare them to 31229, but that’s a lot of effort I’d rather not go to. At least try the reset.
     
  9. Patrick Linley

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    Yeah, all I have is the factory remote that came with the Bolt+ VOX, and those codes don't work... I almost couldn't even get it to pair back to the bolt after the last global reset I did on it, so I'll wait until the slide pro comes in next week... I'm assuming I can make it learn the Bose codes - although I don't know if the factory Bose remote send out the Bose codes in IR... it may only use RF for its communication to the Bose. I'll see
     
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    In that case, I'd try to get the DirecTV remote VOL working so you can use it to teach your new Slide. I think it's unlikely the new remote will have any more Bose codes than your current one. And I'm pretty sure the Bose remote is RF only.

    Do you have any other universal remotes that we could use for teaching in case we can't get the DTV one to work?
     
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  11. Patrick Linley

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    I'll try Edmund's instructions above when I get home... If I can't get the DTV remote to work, I think I have access to borrowing a harmony.
    Thanks for your help!!
     
  12. Patrick Linley

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    Edmund, you are the BOMB! I got the DTV remote to work! Now I should be able to program that slide pro when I get it!
     
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  13. Patrick Linley

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    Well, nothing can be simple, huh? Just got in the **$80** slide pro. 1. Verified that The DirecTV remote DOES perfectly control the Bose V35 Volume up/down. 2. Press TiVo + Select for 3-5sec until red light is solid. 3. Press vol up on slide pro, red light flashes once 4. Hold DIRECTV remote no less than 1 inch from front of slide pro, press vol up 5. Slide pro flashes 4 times to confirm 6. Perform same steps for vol down.
    NO DICE! DIRECTV remote works fine. “Learned” Slide Pro doesn’t work!? BIG WTF!!???


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  14. mdavej

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    7. Press Tivo button to exit learning mode
     
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    Yes. Did that. Still, Code not “Learned”


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  16. Edmund

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    The directv remote adds an extra signal to each command, to turn off this signal and get cleaner learns do the following on the directv remote:

    1. av1 or av2 whichever has the bose code
    2. press and hold MUTE & SELECT for two blinks, release
    3. enter 9 6 3
    4. press CH DOWN

    Make sure you have new batteries in both remotes when teaching.
     
  17. Patrick Linley

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    I get all the correct blink codes, but still not working.


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  18. Edmund

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    It worked for me. I don't have bose, but I have av selector with learning feature, I can teach it four commands from ANY IR remote, it now becomes a bose. The directv remote with code 31229 is taught to the av selector, and to the Slide remote. Now both Slide remote & Directv remote trip the av selector. Key one on Selector is VOlume up, Key to Volume Down, and key three is MUTE, ALL work with each other. This is the first time I ever tried to teach slide remote, preprogrammed codes always worked for me.
     
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  19. Patrick Linley

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    It’s GOT to be these crappy TiVo remotes. If the DTV remote works, then the TiVo remote is just not storing the codes or reproducing them correctly!


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