Recomended Bolt Internal Hard Drive

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  1. Apr 16, 2017 #81 of 132
    Redoctobyr

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    Great info, thank you. I am probably going to wait until the Bolt arrives and see how loud it is, then decide whether to upgrade the fan. I will have to open it up anyhow to install the new HD, so I admit I'm a bit torn, I might break down and order the fan ahead of time, so I could do everything at once. But if opening the case isn't too bad, I'd prefer to see how it sounds, first. I suppose I could leave the case not fully attached, between installing the HD, and upgrading the fan, if required.

    I wonder if raising the case a bit further off the shelf (like by putting something under each side of the case) might help a bit with cooling.

    Edit: Ehh, just ordered the XS-2 fan. If it's quieter, and also keeps things cooler, that seems worth doing, for $10.
     
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  2. Apr 16, 2017 #82 of 132
    oryan_dunn

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    Unless it's hiding in plain sight, it's not in my system info screen...

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  3. Apr 16, 2017 #83 of 132
    Quaro

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    In another fan thread, someone reported they reduced fan noise by attaching the internal fan to the Bolt's USB slot for power. Apparently some of the noise was electrical in nature.
     
  4. Apr 17, 2017 #84 of 132
    Redoctobyr

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    Yeah, I saw that mentioned, it was interesting.

    That means the fan is only running on 5V, vs 12V. So for a given fan, you get less airflow, and the box will run hotter.

    Also, I get the impression that the Bolt can change the fan speed? If that's true, then the TiVo loses that control, if running the fan from another power source.

    You could perhaps run the fan from a separate 12V supply, or maybe even tie it into the 12V power brick's output directly. These would at least let it run at full speed, while hopefully avoiding the electrical noise. You can also get devices to let you control a fan's speed, if you want adjustability.

    I will try the XS-2 fan by itself and see how that goes. Mine won't be in a bedroom, so I don't need totally silent. But quieter would be good, and if I can also keep the box cooler, that would be great.
     
  5. Apr 17, 2017 #85 of 132
    aaronwt

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    It's there on every TiVo I own.

    On the Bolt it's on page two at the bottom. The Remote address is on the very bottom on page two and the temp, ODT, is listed just above the Remote address. And just below the Dial-in Configuration Code.

    Or if you go to the third and last sys info page, since it's not a full page, the temp(ODT) is listed several lines down from the top.
     
  6. Apr 17, 2017 #86 of 132
    audiodane

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    Hi All...

    My father just ordered a Bolt with the lifetime transfer offer, but only the 500GB models were left.. :( I'm seeing on this forum that the TOSHIBA MQ03ABB300 is recommended, but I'm not seeing it in stock anywhere except for some "3rd party vender" on Amazon.

    Is this a temporary issue and I should just keep trying over the coming weeks, or is this a discontinued model and I should be migrating to something else?

    thanks!
    ..dane

    EDIT: Oh, I just found it here: Toshiba MQ03ABB300 3.0TB 2.5-inch 15.0mm... in stock at MacSales.com ... Nevermind!
     
  7. Apr 17, 2017 #87 of 132
    oryan_dunn

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    Thanks. Silly me, I was looking for something with temp in the name...

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  8. Apr 18, 2017 #88 of 132
    Quaro

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    Are the clips on the harddrive for the wireless cable routing really necessary? Why are they there? Is it to keep the wire away from heat?

    I just put in the Toshiba and it's a pain to get them to fit. Can I just skip the clips? I don't plan on moving the Tivo around much...
     
  9. Apr 18, 2017 #89 of 132
    jmbach

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    The Bolt+ runs the wire under the drive through some slits in the plastic supports there to keep the wire routed in place.
     
  10. Apr 18, 2017 #90 of 132
    Quaro

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    I understand the clips are for routing the wire adjacent to the hard drive, but why does the wire have to be routed like that? It seems stable enough without them?

    Is it because to keep the wire from too close to the heat from the hard drive, or to prevent the wire from hitting the fan if it's loose? Has anyone tried without the little white cable guides?
     
  11. Apr 18, 2017 #91 of 132
    oryan_dunn

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    I removed the outer clip because it wouldn't fit with the 15mm drive. I used a piece of tape to hold it in place. I wonder what a bolt plus has for wire guides...

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  12. Apr 19, 2017 #92 of 132
    Quaro

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    Well I just put it back together without the guides. It SEEMS fine. But if anyone think it's worth opening it back up to put in at least one guide or some tape or something, let me know...
     
  13. Apr 19, 2017 #93 of 132
    Mikeguy

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    What I saw in the hard drive replacement video was the recommendation that the wire guides be removed and then replaced a little bit closer to the center of the box, where there is a little more room.
     
  14. Apr 19, 2017 #94 of 132
    aaronwt

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    The clips fit just fine with my two 15mm 4TB drives. I just have them situated on the left part(side toward the center of the Bolt) of the drive where there is more space above it.

    I've had these two 4TB drives in seven Bolts now. And they fit in every one without issues. As well as the clips.

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  15. Apr 20, 2017 #95 of 132
    tluxon

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    It seems to be commonly assumed that PMR technology is superior to SMR technology for use in DVRs - and perhaps in general. However, I can't seem to find a really clear answer as to WHY. Is it because SMR is better suited for Write-Once-Read-Many applications (similar to SSDs)?
     
  16. Apr 21, 2017 #96 of 132
    Eric Miller

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    Has anyone used or has thoughts about using the WD30NMVW-11C3NS4 in the bolt?
     
  17. Apr 21, 2017 #97 of 132
    Redoctobyr

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    This appears to be a larger version of the 2TB drive shown in post #62 of this thread. That one has a USB 3.0 header on the drive itself, NOT a SATA plug. Which means it can't plug into the Bolt's SATA port without some sort of adapter.

    And I was Googling the other day, and was unable to find an adapter to convert from a USB drive *to* SATA. Most adapters convert in the other direction.

    That doesn't mean that a USB-drive-to-SATA-plug adapter doesn't exist, but I wasn't able to find one online. First you'd need to find one, then you'd need to confirm it would work with a Bolt. It would be much simpler to find a drive with a SATA plug.
     
  18. Apr 23, 2017 #98 of 132
    Eric Miller

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    Thanks, was going to try an adapter, but with the 8tb red going on sale at best buy for $180 I couldn't pass it up.
     
  19. Apr 23, 2017 #99 of 132
    krkaufman

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    Do you have any more details on this? (Or are you referring to the recent WD hard drive sale, now ended?)
     
  20. Eric Miller

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