Recomended Bolt Internal Hard Drive

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  1. Jan 12, 2017 #41 of 132
    scht99

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    running ddrescue overnight to see if I can save my shows. ugh. Maybe it was just a bum drive and I got unlucky.

    anyway thx for the quick reply!
     
  2. Jan 13, 2017 #42 of 132
    aaronwt

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    I run mfsr on all drives larger than 2TB I have in my TiVos(Bolts and Roamios). Since it won't work with 2TB and smaller hard drives.
     
  3. Jan 17, 2017 #43 of 132
    Mad Davey

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    I have been running the 3tb Toshiba for about a month now, I don't notice any disk noise, it's working great so far. I think it is the best choice for reliability and size, time will tell. I used mfsr just in case it helps. Just thought I'd chime back in as this forum helped me figure this out.
     
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  4. Jan 24, 2017 #44 of 132
    imrf

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    Any update to this drive in the Bolt? How's it holding up? The data sheet says it's an SMR drive and the consensus here says SMR drives are a bad idea for Tivos. Would love to know as I just received my Bolt and looking to upgrade the 500GB drive to preferably to a 2TB drive, maybe the 1TB WD Red if need be. Not really wanting to spend a lot on the upgrade so the 3TB is not what I really want to do.
     
  5. Jan 24, 2017 #45 of 132
    Mad Davey

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    Toshiba has a 3tb no SMR, $137.00 at Mac sales. Working great for me and a few others here. Seems to be the best option imho.
     
  6. Jan 25, 2017 #46 of 132
    imrf

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    Yeah, I decided to bite the bullet and pull the trigger on that one. It'll be here today. Super fast shipping!

    Thanks!
     
  7. Feb 22, 2017 #47 of 132
    Paulson

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    I bought a 5TB external Seagate drive from Newegg for $159.99

    It's a seagate barracuda drive. It's big but it fits in the enclosure just fine (can't have the clips that hold the wifi cable down installed on the drive though, it'd be too tall at that point.)

    Seagate 5TB Backup Plus Hard Drives - Portable External USB 3.0 Model STDR5000100 Black - Newegg.com

    It's extremely easy to remove from the case. You have a spare case, a spare usb 3.0 to sata adapter that works with an 2.5" hard drive and as long as you're gentle with the case you can pop it back in in case you need to send it in for warranty.

    Will update everyone on performance (I literally just installed it.) I used the MFSR formatter on it and it appeared to work just fine. Haven't gotten past the initial setup screen to very though that it all stuck!
     
  8. Feb 23, 2017 #48 of 132
    ggieseke

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    That drive uses SMR technology. :(
     
  9. Feb 23, 2017 #49 of 132
    aaronwt

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    But if it can work like my 4TB firmware 0001 drives in my two Bolts, it will work just fine.
     
  10. Feb 23, 2017 #50 of 132
    ggieseke

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    You got extremely lucky. I haven't heard of anyone else that still has a working 2.5" 4TB in a Bolt, much less even larger drives. Even with 3TB drives the only one that seems fairly solid is the Toshiba that others have posted.
     
  11. Feb 23, 2017 #51 of 132
    Paulson

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    We'll see how it goes. I figured out too late that it was SMR. So far so good. Recorded 4 streams plus transferring from another unit at the same time without issue.

    Keeping fingers crossed. We'll see how it goes.
     
  12. Feb 24, 2017 #52 of 132
    aaronwt

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    Really? Even the firmware 0001 4TB drives.? I hope I continue to be lucky then since I'm at 16 months of use with both 4TB drives. And I've yet to see any issues with them. So far they have behaved as well as the 5TB Red drive in my Roamio Pro.

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  13. Mar 4, 2017 #53 of 132
    tluxon

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    Maybe running MFSR makes a difference even though TiVo aligns the media partitions without it... I'm going to be doing an upgrade in a week or so and I'll be running MFSR just in case.

    I'm thinking of getting the WD20NPVZ (Same product family as the Bolt+'s WD30NPRZ and Amazon Prime has the 2TB for $117 (sale)). Anybody have experience with this one?
     
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  14. Mar 4, 2017 #54 of 132
    tluxon

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    Seems like more people are using the Toshiba MQ03ABB300. I like the greater capacity for a lower price, but I'm torn because of TiVo's selection of the WD Blue NPxZ family of drives in their Bolt+. I can't help but wonder if there are unforeseen benefits in using such a drive. Any thoughts?
     
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  15. Mar 5, 2017 #55 of 132
    ggieseke

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    . I like the greater capacity for a lower price, but I'm torn because of TiVo's selection of the WD Blue NPxZ family of drives in their Bolt+. I can't help but wonder if there are unforeseen benefits in using such a drive. Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]

    TiVos aren't fussy. Any drive that can handle 24/7 writes will work, and the software sets all drives to SATA1 speeds, so you don't need high performance drives. Slow, cool & quiet is the goal.

    Unfortunately, there are very few 2.5" drives over 2TB that aren't SMR. The Toshiba drive that you mentioned seems to be a good choice in the 3TB market based on results so far. The WD Blue line also looks good (since TiVo is using them), but they're harder to find.
     
  16. Mar 5, 2017 #56 of 132
    tluxon

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    Yeah, it's the "cool" part that was most important to me. My experience with most electronics is that heat has a greater affect on longevity than just about anything else (given a clean environment, of course), and I guessed that TiVo's design engineers spent a little time selecting a drive that would cover them there. Any other benefit in choosing from the same drive family (WD's NPxZ series) would likely be serendipitous in that testing of new firmware or such by TiVo will have been done on units with those drives in them. I'm sure any true benefit would be essentially impossible to quantify.
     
  17. Mar 10, 2017 #57 of 132
    Paulson

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    My 5tb seagate barracuda is working great. $159 shipped from newegg in an external enclosure (bare drive goes for more than $200.) not to mention you can use the USB adapter with any 2.5" data drive and use it for USB 3.0 speeds.
     
  18. Apr 1, 2017 #58 of 132
    missdona

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    What's recommended for the Bolt right now? I see the TOSHIBA MQ03ABB300 is a good choice for 3TB. What's good for a larger capacity?
     
  19. Apr 1, 2017 #59 of 132
    fcfc2

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    I don't think there are any "good" alternatives for a larger capacity internal drive than the 3TB Toshiba. The trouble with the larger SMR drives is that most of them didn't start to have problems for several months before they showed issues.
    The only other option is to go with an external 3.5" drive and either modify the Bolt case, or leave the top off. If you go that route, the standard WD Red's seem to be the best choice.
     
  20. Apr 1, 2017 #60 of 132
    missdona

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    Thank you! We'll go with the Toshiba then.
     

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