Ray Donovan - anyone still watching? **spoilers***

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  1. brebeans

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    Agree, but I don't think he got one.
    Overall, I"m lovin' this show......
     
  2. izmack

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    There's no reason her character needs to be a harpie, perpetrating an Irish stereotype. Absolutely none. It's a caricature.
     
  3. izmack

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    I'm a little nervous that Bunchie is going to go for the kid and not the mom.....
     
  4. Jim_TV

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    You might as well argue that Carmela Soprano didn't "need" to be written a certain way to perpetuate a stereotype about Italian-American women on The Sopranos. As a matter of fact I could argue that the character Abby on Ray Donovan, like Carmela on The Sopranos, are both portrayed accurately as the same kind of East Coast regionally-accented ethnic American women who fall in love with Alpha Male tough guys, marry them and have their children.

    And- while no pushovers themselves- both are exactly the kind of women who look the other way when their husbands have sex with other women kinda-sorta behind their back because their husbands are such great providers with domineering personalities who make a lot of money as well as super masculine criminals who give them 'gina tingles along with a lot of agita.
     
  5. brebeans

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    Agree.....stereotypes are based on some reality. And, although the producers didn't NEED to portray her that way, well, she wouldn't be the kind of woman to be with Ray if she weren't portrayed that way. She loves him, in her own way...the same way Carmela loved Tony (well, they both have love/ate relationships. We've probably all been there, to a certain extent.

    And, like Tony loved Carmela, Ray loves Abby. They just can't keep it in their pants and they don't really see anything wrong with that. And, their wives, well, sort of live with it....depending on how they're being treated at the time of their dalliances. If it's a quick sex thing...then that makes it a bit easier to take than a longer term, possible involvement thing (Tony with the Russian, Ray with his former girlfriend and now, possibly the reporter).

    All of it makes for good, interesting, powerful TV and I love it!
     
  6. MikeAndrews

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    Should we look for Abby to tell Ray to forget about buying the Truesdale house, or is she gonna dig in and make life a living hell for her new stuck up neighbors?

    If you didn't pick up on it, the big reveal is gonna be that Cochran is having an affair with MR. ASEC, not the wife.
     
  7. izmack

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    BIG difference between how Carmela and Abby are portrayed. Carmela had depth...depth that was written into the character and enough to win Edie Falco multiple Emmys for the role. Can you possibly see Abby winning one? Maybe for last night's ep when she uses a selfie ala Anthony Weiner.

    Anyway, we agree to disagree. The day Abby ends up in a hole in the oil field will be a good one for me.
     
  8. pmyers

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    I'm glad that the Sully story line is wrapped up now (hopefully).
     
  9. MikeAndrews

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    I went back to watch the last episode of last season on VoD.

    I can't remember why Rossana was killed by Sully. I think I remember that Sully's girlfriend finally hit Sully's last nerve so he strangled her.
     
  10. Jesda

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    Abby seems like a good fit. That's the kind of nutball woman who marries a Ray Donovan after all.
     
  11. Anubys

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    Wrong place at the wrong time. Sully came over to kill him and the woman was there. He took them both to that oil field place and killed the woman first.
     
  12. Carlucci

    Carlucci Hiding The Decline

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    I was very surprised that the last scene didn't have the reporter look at the note that Mickey's friend passed her. As far as we know, it's still in her purse. I'm sure there's something in there that will torpedo the entire narrative that Ray and the FBI concocted. I'd be real surprised if it's completely wrapped up.
     
  13. Anubys

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    I really like Kate (the reporter). I hope that's not the end of her storyline.
     
  14. pmyers

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    I don't know if the reveal will be th FBI guy having an affair with the ASEC GUY or not but he did also grope the guy's wife. Maybe they are swingers or something.
     
  15. Anubys

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    The way I see it, they played scrabble and then had a foursome. This is the only way to explain why Ray's people never caught him sneaking somewhere.
     
  16. Dawghows

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    Given the words they were spelling out during the Scrabble game, these are my thoughts as well.
     
  17. pmyers

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    Yes, that is how I took that game too.
     
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    The doesn't quite meet the half your age plus seven rule, now does it?
     
  20. stinkbomb1020

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    I was wondering....hope we get to see more of the FBI part of the story because no part it has been addressed in the last 3 or more episodes? This is an awesome show so surely they won't leave that part of the story open unless they are saving it for next season?
     

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