Questions about setting up service with Comcast Cable

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  1. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Well-Known Member

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    So logic dictates that the OP scrap his existing equipment and spend a lot of money acquiring all new equipment to meet your standards. Plus possibly increasing his cable bill. Either that or do without. That's not logical, just stupid.

    Your "logic" apparently consists of the following: "Once HD became available, I realized that SD is unwatchable. I cannot believe I put up with this crap all of those years. Since I find it unacceptable, it must be unacceptable to everyone. Therefore, everyone should acquire HD equipment. All SD channels should be eliminated. Especially those that are carrying programming that has no need for HD, like old movies and TV shows. They're just cluttering up the airwaves and using up cable bandwidth. Bandwidth that could be used for more of the stuff that I like."
     
  2. Bigg

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    It's perfectly logical. If someone cares so little about their TV that they are still using ancient SD equipment, then clearly they don't care enough to be shelling out the big bucks to have cable in the first place. And likewise, if they can't afford to drop a grand or two on TiVo hardware, then they probably shouldn't be blowing $80/mo on cable TV.

    Yes, actually SD channels should be eliminated. It would save a lot of wasted bandwidth used in duplicating channels that are already available in HD. Unfortunately, that would be expensive for Comcast and gang, as there are still a lot of SD boxes out there that would have to be replaced. Although it might make sense to kill all the SD channels that the DTAs can't get so that they can continue to support SD boxes and DTAs, but require an HD box for the additional SD channels.

    Most old moves were shot on film, and have since been scanned at 4k or 8k, so they have plenty of resolution for HD. Heck, Netflix has Ghostbusters available in 4k.
     
  3. CrispyCritter

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    Just totally, completely wrong.

    Not everybody is a 24 year-old Yuppie in Boston. People other than you have to make hard choices, and they make different choices than you. I'm glad you've never had to make those sorts of choices about your TV, but you're an outlier.

    10 years ago almost everybody was using SD equipment, most were paying for cable, and most were enjoying it. Just because they might enjoy it more in HD now doesn't mean that SD TV is not offering the same basic enjoyment now that it was then. Do you claim that the entire TV industry 10 years ago was worthless because nobody was enjoying it?
     
  4. lpwcomp

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    That's got to be one of stupidest statements I've ever read. When you made the decision to replace all of your equipment, If you didn't factor in cost, opportunity cost, COH, cash flow, etc., then you're either a fool or you have more money than you know what to do with. In any case, WHO THE HELL ARE YOU TO TELL SOMEONE ELSE WHAT IS OR ISN'T ACCEPTABLE AND HOW THEY SHOULD ALLOCATE THEIR DISPOSABLE INCOME? Get over yourself. You are not the esthetics czar.

    Someone who thinks so highly of themselves is in desperate need of a reality check.

    Are you really that oblivious to the fact that there are channels that are only available in SD and that converting them to HD would eat up more bandwidth?

    Do you have an actual source you can cite to back up that claim? If not, I'll just consider it a case of "you can prove anything if you get to make up your data".

    You think Ghostbusters qualifies as old? That's one of the funniest things I've read in a long time.
     
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  6. lpwcomp

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    What I was questioning was this claim:
    The following from the article to which you linked puts the lie to that claim:

     
  7. bmeacham2

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    Back to the point of this thread....Would it be possible that THIS series 2 cable could work with a premiere and a slingbox HD Pro?
    Any thoughts?
     
  8. lpwcomp

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  9. telemark

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    They're asking if the special cable (IR control cross over) could be used between a Slingbox and a Premiere.

    Since the Premiere does not have a IR input bypass, the answer is No.

    If you hack these together, maybe. But it has not been done before.
    https://www.tivo.com/shop/detail/ir-adapter
     
  10. lpwcomp

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    If that is truly the case, then my confusion is twofold.

    A. The actual "point of this thread" has nothing to do with his question.

    B. I already answered it.

    Shouldn't even attempt it unless you know what you are doing and if you do know what you're doing, probably better off building a cable from scratch.
     
  11. telemark

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    I agree, if you don't know how to do it already, not worth trying.

    bmeacham2:
    Slingbox clients don't need integrated control.
    You'd be better served by getting one of the Network Tivo remotes working.

    wmcbrine makes one for laptops:
    http://wmcbrine.com/tivo/

    I made one for web server / browsers:
    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=518695

    There's a slew of them in the iphone and Android store.
     
  12. Bigg

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    Content is now produced for HD viewing, so clinging on to obsolete equipment and refusing to upgrade to the current standards will provide a highly sub-par viewing experience. Content produced for SD viewing was fine in an SD world. Times have changed. Move on.

    The decision at this point is cable or no cable, cable just is HD. We live in an HD, digital world. Get with the program or get out.

    Someone who thinks so highly of themselves is in desperate need of a reality check.

    That's an idiotic statement, since I never said to up-convert SD channels. SD-only channels would still be SD, and channels available in HD would only be available in HD. People stuck in 2004 with SDTVs could have HD boxes that downconvert. However, almost all channels are available in HD now, even though not all MSOs provide them all in HD.


    HUH? It is well known that film was the standard for a long time.

    It's 30 years old. That's way old in terms of movies that people are buying/renting/watching.
     
  13. lessd

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    Comcast offers a basic cable without any HD (they just use the DTA box), low price low quality, but a good option for some low income people, or people that only have TV for young kids.
     
  14. CrispyCritter

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    How extremely arrogant of you.

    I asked you a direct question that you avoided answering. Rephrasing:
    Do you claim that the SD experience today is substantially worse than the SD experience of 10 years ago? Are there fewer shows in less quality available? If it was worth having cable 10 years ago for SD programming, why is it suddenly not worth it today?

    NOBODY is arguing with you that the HD experience is not better than the SD experience, but you keep on pretending that's what we're claiming. Different folks get different things out of TV, and some of them get very different things than you. Is it really worthwhile paying substantial amounts of money for HD if all your family watches are shows for young kids?
     
  15. Bigg

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    You can get CableCard, HD, or HD-DVR with basic service. It might take some persistence, but it can be done... You probably can't get X1 with that tier, but a basic HD-DVR would probably be fine if you only have 5 channels anyways... The tier and channel selection has little to do with what equipment you can get.

    Yes. The SD experience today is a show produced in HD for an audience watching in HD that is down-converted, either chopped or barred, and then over-compressed. The SD experience in the pre-2008 era (pre-2005 for the early HD channels) was an experience designed for the medium and transmission available at that time. We live in an HD, mobile, always-on world, and devices and services that don't do those things (in the appropriate contexts) are not going to offer a good experience, even if they did in the past.

    Yes. We live in an HD world, HD is cheap, fully commoditized, and widely available. There is no excuse for staying with SD in an HD world.
     
  16. CrispyCritter

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    Balony. I watched SD (on our "exercise" TV) up until last year. What you say is just false. You seem to have no experience yourself in these matters - what are you basing your claims on? Please give your evidence.
     
  17. lessd

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    My adult son and his wife record on SD because they want a few thousand hours of record time, I don't think they need that, but who am I to fight them over their choice of how they want to record, they have a HDTV and a HD TP with a cable card and don't care, SD is for them. If you want I will give you their E-Mail address so you can tell my kids off for using SD recordings.
     
  18. DancyMunchkin

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    And why would someone need an 'excuse' to stay with SD?

    No one needs to justify their purchasing decisions to you.
     
  19. Bigg

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    Yes, I actually do. There was a transition period a few years back here too, and yeah, the SDTV looked horrible with content that was produced in an HD world for an audience using HDTVs. Now my parents have two HDTVs and my roommates and I have 4 HDTVs (two small and two big).

    That's pretty pathetic, especially considering that you have a great TiVo setup with a virtually bottomless pit of storage.

    Because HD is standard now.
     
  20. lessd

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    So now your calling my son and his wife pathetic for recording in SD when they could record in HD, I can't find the words to insult you that I can put into this Forum, you would think my kids were hurting you or hurting someone. What resolution they want to watch in their home on their TV is NOT your business to criticize. (unless you are a guest in their home, and that would never be)
    You are one arrogant SOB, and a tech snob
     

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