pyTivo - Transcoding server

Discussion in 'TiVo Home Media Features & TiVoToGo' started by armooo, Nov 25, 2006.

  1. wmcbrine

    wmcbrine Well-Known Mumbler

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    No sir. KUID leads to premature deletion (of anything not so marked). It just doesn't work well. It should be used sparingly if ever. The quickest way to render a TiVo inoperative is heavy use of KUID. I've seen it repeatedly, and I stand by my answer.

    In typical use, TiVos have all the space they need to avoid premature deletion without having to use KUID.
     
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  2. lpwcomp

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    I stand by my contention that there is absolutely nothing wrong with KUID. It's what I use for things I know I don't want deleted as opposed to those things that I don't care about as much. Saying things will be "prematurely deleted" makes absolutely no sense. If it is deleting things even though it doesn't need to, something is going to be deleted and using KUID is the only way to ensure that it won't be the stuff I want kept.
     
  3. wmcbrine

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    The really destructive thing is if you have season passes set to KUID, especially if they're set to keep multiple episodes. The TiVo projects all the space that would be taken up by all the episodes as unavailable. Marking individual programs after the fact has less effect.
     
  4. lpwcomp

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    Huh? I've never seen any evidence of that.
     
  5. lpwcomp

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    Every one of those posts was assuming something for which there was no evidence or complaining about messages saying that something could not be scheduled or would not be recorded due to insufficient disk space.

    When the scheduler is determining whether there will be sufficient disk space to record something in the future, it calculates how much space will be available at that point, so of course it has to take into account all the space that it thinks will be allocated to KUID recordings by then. It does not pre-allocate the space for all future KUID recordings and permanently remove it from the free space calculation. IOW, it doesn't prevent you from making a recording now simply because a week from now it will be out of space.

    When I either explicitly schedule a recording or download something, I sometimes get warnings that things will be deleted early or will not be recorded due to insufficient space. The latter can include KUID 1P recordings.
     
  6. mattack

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    I know all of that.

    However, when transferring shows from one tivo to another, as we described earlier, the tivo seems to do some wrong estimation of the size it's transferring, so makes way more room than necessary.. which CAN include deleting things.

    So if everything is KUID, it obviously WON'T delete those shows.
     
  7. aaronwt

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    Why would you lose them? I've had recordings for years on my Premiere and they have never been deleted. Nothing is marked KUID on that box. As long as it doesn't get near full, I won't have those long term shows deleted.
     
  8. lpwcomp

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    The post to which you responded was addressing the problem of a TiVo, for some unknown, deleting recordings to make space for a transfer even though there is plenty of space already available.
     
  9. derek87

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    i apologize: i haven' read all 175 pages of this thread, but i did try to search on the web and here for what i have been experiencing, but didn't turn anything up on these following things so i beg your forgiveness if i somehow missed the answers somewhere...

    .. i got my first Tivo (Roamio OTA) last week and have slowly been bringing it up and transitioning from my mac based EyeTV tuner which i've used over the past 10 years. in the interest of archiving some old recordings (e.g., World Series recordings) and potentially putting some of these Eyetv recordings onto the Tivo Roamio so i can retire my dying Macbook Pro which was streaming the recordings from our main computer.

    anyway, i digress: i've been trying to use pyTivo to transfer these eyetv recordings to the Roamio. i have had limited success and have the following questions/observations:

    - i have had weird instances where it seems the transfer process goes into limbo. for e.g., this morning, i wanted to add another show by transfer, so i chose to transfer it, but when i selected it, it said it would transfer it once other items were completed on the to do list (implying there were other files in front of it to be transferred). yet, that is not the case. there are no other transfer requests in front of this particular file/show. i can confirm this when i go to my to do list. only the file i have recently asked to be transferred is at the top of the list (ahead of the recording set up to natively be recorded by the Roamio)

    - is there some simple way to edit the Metadata on the Eyetv file/package to get a more consistent naming convention, and (wishful thinking), include it with the folder already on the Tivo?

    e.g., we record the show Blackish on ABC. for the tivo based recordings, they store them in a folder called "blackish." the one eyetv file i have transferred thus far is entitled "Blackish (2015)" it's unclear to me what will happen if i were to push a second episode of blackish to the Roamio. would it create a folder of that name?

    (the name of the file i pushed is of the from Blackish - Episodename.eyetv)

    - i also found one time last night a transfer just got sort of stuck at transferring zero bytes. is there anything to avoid this happening? (i resolved the problem by forcefully deleting everything from the roamio, taking down the pytivo server, clearing the movies directory, and starting from scratch (i.e., it took a huge effort to get the failed transfer to permanently stop).


    thanks for any thoughts for such newbie questions/thoughts!
     
  10. lpwcomp

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    What format are the EyeTV files? - mpg, mp4, or something else?

    In any case, your best option is most likely to get them into some standard format(mp4 would probably be the best) and generate new metadata files using Metagenerator 3 then Pull them to your TiVo rather than Push. Also add

    ts=on

    to the pyTivo global settings so an mp4 will not be transcoded to mpg.
     
  11. derek87

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    eyetv files are the raw MPEG-2 (mpg file + a bunch of files of metadata)

    in the end, it's probably not worth the effort as this is really just a way to get through some shows in the next few weeks although it might be worth an investment older files like from the past World Series although i'd prefer to not lose any quality from the raw HD feeds previously recorded.
     
  12. scht99

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    Bolt is driving me crazy...

    Is there any way to force pytivo to attach to it? my share is not showing up and the drop down only has my old premeiere not my new bolt.

    I can try to push to the bolt using kmttg (which is working fine) but pyTivo gives an error: "notAuthorized...Cannot find accountID for TSN Bolt"

    Also my bolt sometimes doesn't allow attaching to my old TiVo Premiere
    My old TiVo Premeiere works perfectly with pyTivo

    Anyone have any ideas?

    I tried adding the bolts IP address to pyTivo settings too. That didn't do anything.
     
  13. lpwcomp

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    What does the entry for the Bolt look like in pyTivo.conf?

    How long have you had the Bolt? It can take a few days to be fully accessible.

    Can you access the Bolt from the Premieres and vice-versa? Have you enabled "Video Sharing" and "Video Downloads".
     
  14. wmcbrine

    wmcbrine Well-Known Mumbler

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    How long have you had the Bolt? These symptoms kind of sound like what you'd expect from any new TiVo, that clears up in a few days (faster if you force a connection or two). Also, go to https://www.tivo.com/tivo-mma/dvrpref.do and make sure "Enable Video Downloads" and "Video Sharing" are checked.

    Edit: Yes, I posted before I refreshed the page and saw the other reply. :)
     
  15. wmcbrine

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    EyeTV files are actually OS X "bundles" -- a directory of several files together, video with metadata. pyTivo already supports this format (or tries to). You can edit the metadata; it's in a plist. Or, perhaps, generate pyTivo .txt files from the command line with metadata.py, and edit those.

    MetaGenerator is a Windows-only program, so not too useful to Mac users.
     
  16. lpwcomp

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    Oops. I would have recommended pyTivoMetaThis but it doesn't currently have the capability to get the programId.
     
  17. scht99

    scht99 New Member

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    Yes downlaods and sharing are checked. Also took the spaces out of all my TiVo names as someone else suggested in another thread.

    I've had it for a while, but haven't tried connecting things or running pyTivo. Things seem to see each other now. My mini can finally see my Bolt. The old and new tivos talk and everything see the pyTivo share. Last night it saw pYTivo for an hour then it was gone. its there again this morining.

    Question: will this stabilize? Anyting I need to do? Are the connections always ustable dissapearing and whatnot? You said its expected for new TiVos does that mean now that its workig it will be stable?

    Oh and thank you for your help and the great software and community!
     
  18. wmcbrine

    wmcbrine Well-Known Mumbler

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    Hmm, probably not, I'm sorry to say. The best thing you can do in that situation is to increase the stability of the network. Try removing any wi-fi links between the server and the TiVo, if possible, in favor of hard-wired Ethernet, or MoCA.
     
  19. aaronwt

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    Everything showed up automatically with both of my Bolts. I can see the pyTiVo shares at the bottom of the My SHows list.
     

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