Problem starting endpad....

Discussion in 'TiVo Series 1 - UK' started by PhilG, Jul 7, 2011.

  1. Jul 7, 2011 #1 of 27
    PhilG

    PhilG New Member

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    I noticed the other day that endpad had unexpectedly terminated

    There was nothing untoward in the endpad log or messages BUT when I tried restarting it from telnet, I got

    Code:
    Wednesday 20:41:52 : 
    Wednesday 20:41:52 : endpad.tcl 1.5.0 log file, starting up
    Wednesday 20:41:52 : Start padding set to 120 seconds
    Wednesday 20:41:52 : End padding set to 300 seconds
    Wednesday 20:41:52 : Negative start padding set to 0 seconds
    Wednesday 20:41:52 : Force Negative startpadding is 0
    Wednesday 20:41:52 : Suggestions will be padded, even if that means cancelling a subsequent suggestion
    Wednesday 20:41:52 : Detected TiVo software version 2.5.5-01-1-023
    Wednesday 20:41:52 : Suggestion quality change disabled
    Wednesday 20:41:52 : Timezone 00:00
    Wednesday 20:41:52 : Sorted configuration options (last match used):-
    Wednesday 20:41:52 : startpad 2 endpad 5 negpad 0 forceneg 0 maxneg -1 sugeq 1 sugqual -1
    Wednesday 20:41:52 : program apprentice endpad 15
    Wednesday 20:41:52 : program hitchhiker startpad 5 endpad 10
    Wednesday 20:41:52 : channel EURGB startpad 10 endpad 30
    Wednesday 20:41:52 : channel EURGB program jumping endpad 60
    Wednesday 20:41:52 : channel EURGB program skating endpad 60
    Wednesday 20:41:53 : Woken up
    Wednesday 20:41:53 : Error detected
    Wednesday 20:41:53 : can't read "rectype": no such variable
    while executing
    "if {$rectype == 3} {
    
    # Recording active
    set isrec 1
    
    # Get details of currently recording programme
    RetryTransaction ..."
    Wednesday 20:41:53 : Attempting to recover
    Wednesday 20:42:23 : Woken up
    Wednesday 20:42:23 : Error detected
    Wednesday 20:42:23 : can't read "rectype": no such variable
    while executing
    "if {$rectype == 3} {
    
    # Recording active
    set isrec 1
    
    # Get details of currently recording programme
    RetryTransaction ..."
    Wednesday 20:42:23 : Attempting to recover
    Wednesday 20:42:23 : Too many errors, stopping
    
    I'll probably be rebooting over the weekend as part of my alt epg conversion, but I'd quite like to know what is causing this before I do so

    The only thing unusual I can think of is that my Tivo is almost out of guide data (I'm getting the "nag" messages)

    Thanks for any suggestions

    Phil G
     
  2. Jul 7, 2011 #2 of 27
    SolidTechie

    SolidTechie New Member

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    Wednesday 20:41:53 : can't read "rectype": no such variable
    ###

    # Get details of currently recording programme
    RetryTransaction ..."
    [/QUOTE]

    Looks as if it has no guide data for the current channel, try changing to a channel that has data and then start endpad.

    I suspect though, that you need to turn off suggestions, so that a channel where there is no data left, will not be selected.
     
  3. Jul 7, 2011 #3 of 27
    PhilG

    PhilG New Member

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    Ahhhh

    Almost ALL of my channels no longer have guide data - so that's what's happened

    I guess it does make sense now you mention it

    Thanks
     
  4. Jul 7, 2011 #4 of 27
    mutant_matt2

    mutant_matt2 New Member

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    I got the same, when I still had endpad running (doh!) after and during the switch to AltEPG yesterday. Once I finished setting Tivo up, and doing reboots, including re-enabling various hacks, and having blown away all the logs, endpad still crashed once more.

    However, I manually restarted it, and it's been running fine ever since.

    I will keep my eye on it for a bit, as it's something I rely heavily on.

    Matt :)
     
  5. Jul 7, 2011 #5 of 27
    PhilG

    PhilG New Member

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    It's a shame it dies when there is no guide data and doesn't just revert to default padding (which would have suited me better than having NO padding :()

    I suppose it's too late for anyone to make that sort of change too - which is a pity
     
  6. Jul 7, 2011 #6 of 27
    TCM2007

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    Strange to say, the idea that there might be no guide data didn't seem to be a priority scenario when I wrote it!
     
  7. Jul 7, 2011 #7 of 27
    mutant_matt2

    mutant_matt2 New Member

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    <Pete mode> What, you didn't think about your user's future requirements? That's obviously because you are focused on being a corporate drone and being evil, trying to make money, at the expense of the poor Tivo users who are forced into using your hack </Pete mode>....or something... ;)

    Seriously though, Endpad, is *THE* hack, IMHO, and I for one am eternally grateful for it (even if it's crystal ball needs upgrading ;) :) :D )

    Matt :)
     
  8. Jul 8, 2011 #8 of 27
    PhilG

    PhilG New Member

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    Now I understand why, it's not a big deal

    It's just, for the time being, I'm only making manual recordings - my Alt EPG conversion is scheduled for this weekend, so in the meantime I'll just have to remember to manually pad

    One question though - after I've Alt EPG'd, what happens if I set a manual recording on a channel that has no guide data - will Endpad crash then too?

    If so, that's more of a problem as I'm anticipating Alt EPG not (yet) having data for some of the channels we watch

    Cheers

    Phil G
     
  9. Jul 8, 2011 #9 of 27
    TCM2007

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    There are no AltEPG channels with no guide data. The guide data might be "TBA" but it exists.
     
  10. PhilG

    PhilG New Member

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    But does Alt EPG have ALL the channels?

    It IS possible to schedule a manual recording on a Tivo channel that's NOT flagged as a channel "I receive" (I think) - in which case the channel would definitely have no guide data
     
  11. DX30

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    I've done a couple of manual recordings on AltEPG Sky channels without guide data (ISTR it was Military History) and the recordings worked, even getting the appropriate padding.

    On the other hand I have had a couple of occasions when I found endpad had stopped. I'm not sure what triggered those however as all recordings at those times were on channels with guide data.

    I guess what I'm saying is there is probably more than just lack of guide data involved.
     
  12. PhilG

    PhilG New Member

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    OK

    I've got guide data now (thanks Alt EPG!)

    But now endpad is failing to start with

    Code:
    Friday 14:52:29 : Woken up
    Friday 14:52:29 : Error detected
    Friday 14:52:29 : can't read "nextbutonerecstartdate": no such variable
    while executing
    "expr $nextbutonerecstartdate * 86400 + $nextbutonerecstarttime"
    Friday 14:52:29 : Attempting to recover
    Friday 14:52:59 : Woken up
    Friday 14:52:59 : Error detected
    Friday 14:52:59 : can't read "nextbutonerecstartdate": no such variable
    while executing
    "expr $nextbutonerecstartdate * 86400 + $nextbutonerecstarttime"
    Friday 14:52:59 : Attempting to recover
    Friday 14:52:59 : Too many errors, stopping
    ??:confused:

    Phil G
     
  13. SolidTechie

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    Had it finished indexing?
     
  14. DX30

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    Have you set any recordings yet? If not then presumably endpad cannot find details of the next recording because there isn't one.
     
  15. TCM2007

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    Yes, again I assumed when writing it that there would be some scheduled recordings, so it doesn't play nicely on a completely virgin TiVo. I think that was fixed by the EndPad Plus guys in their development.

    Set up a couple of recordings and restart your TiVo.
     
  16. swarrans

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    Endpad seems to have broken for me too - any idea what is wrong and what I should do please? (if the answer is manually start it, remind me how to do that!..


    Friday 16:26:34 : End padding set to 300 seconds
    Friday 16:26:34 : Negative start padding set to 0 seconds
    Friday 16:26:34 : Force Negative startpadding is 0
    Friday 16:26:34 : Suggestions will be padded, even if that means cancelling a subsequent suggestion
    Friday 16:26:34 : Detected TiVo software version 2.5.5-01-1-023
    Friday 16:26:34 : Suggestion quality change disabled
    Friday 16:26:34 : Timezone 00:00
    Friday 16:26:34 : Sorted configuration options (last match used):-
    Friday 16:26:34 : startpad 0 endpad 5 negpad 0 forceneg 0 maxneg -1 sugeq 1 sugqual -1
    Friday 16:26:34 : Woken up
    Friday 16:26:34 : Error detected
    Friday 16:26:34 : can't read "rectype": no such variable
    while executing
    "if {$rectype == 3} {

    # Recording active
    set isrec 1

    # Get details of currently recording programme
    RetryTransaction ..."
    Friday 16:26:34 : Attempting to recover
    Friday 16:27:04 : Woken up
    Friday 16:27:04 : Error detected
    Friday 16:27:04 : can't read "rectype": no such variable
    while executing
    "if {$rectype == 3} {

    # Recording active
    set isrec 1

    # Get details of currently recording programme
    RetryTransaction ..."
    Friday 16:27:04 : Attempting to recover
    Friday 16:27:04 : Too many errors, stopping
     
  17. riggers

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    FWIW I'm using AltEPG and endpad and am not having any problems with it.

    My setup is using a Sky box without a subscription.
     
  18. SolidTechie

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    It would be helpful to know your setup - is this "old" TiVo or AltEPG TiVo?

    If new, how did you do the setup? do you have all the guide data?

    At its most simple, to start endpad, you can do so from the command line with a command along the lines of:

    ./endpad.tcl -s 3 -e 4

    However it can be far more complex
     
  19. PhilG

    PhilG New Member

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    Perhaps it hadn't :eek:

    But I tried restarting again this morning and it's running just FINE

    Well, up to a point

    In the endpad log, the times are 1 hour BEHIND the Tivo time :confused:

    And it's quoting "next scheduled program" as 1 hour out as well - I'm confused (or did Endpad ALWAYS work to GMT???)
     
  20. DX30

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    Not only endpad - you'll find the rest of the TiVo works in GMT too.
     

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