Premiere Elite menu scrolling slow and also locks up

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by CynPiz, Jul 26, 2012.

  1. compnurd

    compnurd Well-Known Member

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    You are not connecting a new coax to the TiVo. The same coax your TiVo gets it's tv single on will also provide the network once you follow the steps above when you connect the moca. There will be no wireless to your TiVo once you connect the moca Moca is the networking terminology for network over coax cable

    And yes to the second part of your question
     
  2. CoxInPHX

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  3. CynPiz

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    Yes TiVo needs a better diagram than the one they have on their site. U all should also know I don't have Fios. I have optimum cable and also get my signal passed thru a switched video adapter. Any issues with that? Thanks everyone.
     
  4. CoxInPHX

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    Probably, Yes, You will most likely need a splitter before the SDV TA, 1 to feed the TA and 1 to feed the Elite/XL4. I do not believe the Cisco TA will pass MoCA signals above 1GHz, But it might still work if the MoCA can use only signals below 1GHz.
     
  5. lpwcomp

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    You will probably need the additional splitter. Where the TiVo is, you go from the wall to the splitter. 1 output of the splitter goes to the TA. The other goes to the TiVo.

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    TA to Tivo connection is USB (just as it is now)
    Both Router connections are via Ethernet.
    All others are coax. Wall to Wall is your existing coax cable wiring.
     
  6. CynPiz

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    Boy you guys are insomniacs aren't you? Thanks so much for the info. I'll start working on this as soon as I get the MoCA adapter from amazon. I'm sure you'll hear from me then.
     
  7. CynPiz

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    OK - I believe I am understanding this very well...
    I need to be certain to use the correct type of coax splitter, right? I am reading that I need one that will pass 1 Ghz or higher...The ones at radio shack are 900 Mhz (100 Mhz shy) - Will I have trouble with those? They are only 9 bucks each.

    Or should I just splurge and but the MONSTER 2GHz splitters from best buy? They are 20$ each! EEk...
     
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  9. CynPiz

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    OK - But now I am seeing the ones that go UP TO 1 Ghz...Would that suffice?
    They are only a few bucks...
     
  10. compnurd

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    I have 1GHZ ones and have no issues... I think on the rating it says it does 1005mhz
     
  11. lpwcomp

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    Find out if your local Home Depot has this one in stock.
     
  12. CynPiz

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    Thanks, Guys...I actually just ordered two IDEAL brand splitters on the Home Depot website (same price as the GE) and did and in-store pickup order...Hopefully they will have them for me...

    I can't tell you how much I appreciate all your assistance...
     
  13. CoxInPHX

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    I think I would attempt to set your Elite/XL4 MoCA up, first, without the splitter before the TA, It "may" be able to use the 900MHz range to establish the network connection. Also, I do not know for a fact the Cisco TA will not pass through over 1000MHz, it is just what I have heard. If it does not work then use the splitter. The Elite/XL4 needs a very good signal strength and using the splitter will reduce the signal by at least 3dBmV.

    Another, item you should install is a MoCA POE (Point-of-Entry) Filter at the entrance to your home, this will both strengthen the MoCA network signal within your home and keep your MoCA network from leaving your home, for both security and to keep the signal from reaching your neighbors and the cable plant.

    You can most likely get a MoCA POE (Point-of-Entry) Filter free from your Cable Co, most companies require its use in homes using MoCA.

    https://www3.tivo.com/store/accessories-networking.do
    "A MoCA (Multimedia over Coax) "Point of Entry" filter is designed to keep MoCA signals concentrated in your home and may improve the performance of a MoCA home network. Install it in-line only at the point of entry of your cable line into your home."

    http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/video/ps8806/ps9095/ps10163/7016817.pdf

    I decided against investing in MoCA due to the unknown TA factor and possible need for a splitter, reducing signal strength. I originally went with a WiFi "N" bridge, and then to hardwired Ethernet when I needed a better network for Multi-Room Streaming. I can MRS between Premieres using Dual-Band 2.4/5GHz Wireless N, but not consistently using just 2.4GHz.

    I am really tempted, to purchase a MoCA adapter just to determine whether or not the TA will pass the required frequencies. But Cox uses the 900MHz range for 25 HD channels, where no one else does, so that also poses another hurdle, if indeed the TA cannot pass >1000MHz.
     
  14. windracer

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    I have the Cisco STA1520 and did have an issue with the "pass-thru" filtering out my MoCA signal so I had to put the splitter before it.
     
  15. jrtroo

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    A word of warning on splitters- the ones you can buy at home depot are not necessarily going to allow signals to pass. I have a small box full of these that did not allow for good signal around the house.

    If you have issues- it could make sense to have the cable company install theirs. Do this- sign up for their "insurance" for ~1.50 per month that protects your wiring. Then have them come out, clear it up, and cancel for the next month.
     
  16. CynPiz

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    Alright here's the scoop:

    Everything is hooked up. I'm using 2.4Ghz splitters. I DID install the splitter before the TA. I didn't even try to go straight to the TIVO...

    Tivo CANNOT find the MoCA signal (N33 error).

    Do you think I should take out the splitter and try again?
    PS - Everything else is working so the connections are all solid
     
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    Also - I didn't get a point of entry filter yet. I have a feeling Optimum won't install it. They will probably tell me they don't do MoCA...Remember: I don't have Fios...
     
  18. compnurd

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    Have you rebooted everything(included the router)
     
  19. CynPiz

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    Yes - And I spoke with TiVO tech support...They INSIST there is no way for me to pass MoCA without the cable company specifically installing it....Ugh....Oh well...At least I tried...

    Anything else you want me to prove to everyone?
    LOL
     
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    Is it possible there's a splitter somewhere between the MoCA adapter connected to your router and the TiVo? When I first installed MoCA I had the same issue: got everything connected but no MoCA signal. I eventually found a 900MHz splitter in the attic. Replaced that with the 2GHz splitter and everything lit up.
     

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