Premiere Drive Upgrade Instructions - with all-in-one jmfs Live CD

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by comer, Sep 20, 2010.

  1. theruckman

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    looking forward to trying this tomorrow, something you posted for MFS tools a while back:
    • Easy way to identify connected drives (thanks to 192bowler showing me this) - lsblk -o name,size,vendor
    • For most people who just want to copy their old image to a new drive (max 4 TB in size) the command is as follows:
    • Premier and earlier models - mfscopy -ai /dev/sdX /dev/sdY
    • Where sdX is the source drive and sdY is the target drive.
    Hopefully it works, will let you know!
    Scott


     
  2. theruckman

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    OK so I was able to issue those commands and get things started.....was easiest to just take a pic of what happened (see attached). Obviously a bunch of errors from the source drive......SO I SHOULD SAY the main reason I did this was constant freezing up etc.....I saw things about def power supplies but I found a troubleshooting guide on here somewhere that seemed to say it was probably a HD dying rather than the PS......PLUS I think this current 3TB I put in there before is a 7200.....PLUS the power supply capacitors etc....nothing bulging.....all looked OK there.
    ANYWAY I am wondering if the errors shown in the pic I am attaching show that the HD is indeed going bad. BTW I have MFStools CD running (not usb) and only thing connected to the Dell PC (i7 optiplex 9020) is the 2 sata drives
    I am about to try a couple things until I hear back from anyone:
    • swap SDA and SDB sata inputs on MB
    • I think there was a "fail safe" mode on MFStools, maybe that could
    QUESTION: IF the errors on this HD are preventing copy over to the new one, anything I can do about this? I have about 60% of it filled and a LOT of good stuff I did not want to lose!
    • PLAN B: I think I saw some commands to pull streams off? is that possible?
    thx
     

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  3. jmbach

    jmbach der Neuerer

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    You may need to either clone the drive to a known good drive first or use ddrescue to try to save the data from the bad drive to a good drive. Other option is to try spinrite on the drive to see if it can be rescued and then copied.
     
  4. theruckman

    theruckman New Member

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    I kinda thought I was "cloning" it but I assume "copy" is not quite the same.....can the "clone" be done via MFStools or use DD? not familiar with DD....ALSO is spinrite its own program or included on MFS tools or DD?
    I am looking now but just asking......thx
     
  5. jmbach

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    ddrescue is on the ISO. May need to Google for instructions
     
  6. theruckman

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    WHY CANT ANYTHING BE EASY FOR LINUS DUMMIES LIKE ME:(
    anyway I am actually logged into these forums using the FF browser that comes with System Rescue CD.....I started the "graphical interface" which is great but I cannot figure out how to FIND or START DDrescue.....typing "ddrescue" in terminal does not work.....looking.....please chime in any suggestions
     
  7. jmbach

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    So ddrescue should be on the MFSTools ISO you downloaded from my post.

    dd_rescue is a very similar program.

    You don't have to use Linux programs to do this. There are windows programs out there that do similar things.
     
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  8. theruckman

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    OK I think I got it going....check out what I typed in and does it look like it is doing what it needs to be doing? And FYI SDA is my old Tivo drive and SDb is my new 4tb
    note the screenshot of what is going on right now....what I typed in....etc...
     

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  9. theruckman

    theruckman New Member

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    I got this info from here:
    How to Clone Hard Disks with ddrescue |
     
  10. jmbach

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    That is a good start. You can use the log file to have ddrescue go back and try scrubbing the drive to recover only the bad sectors.

    When it is done, take a picture of the final output to see how many bad sectors there are. Of there are too many, the copy may not work.

    Once you are done trying to save your drive, boot the copy in the TiVo before you do anything else and check to make sure it works and connects to the TiVo servers okay. Then might want to run a few KS codes on it to see if it passes them okay.
     
  11. theruckman

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    Based on what you see how long do you think it will take? And is it literally cloning/copying right now? And if so, Is there is a chance the new drive might work when installed? Or after this I would need to go back to mfstools etc for the copy command again? Thx!


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  12. theruckman

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    Sorry I didn't see this last part on TapTalk app....let you know....ALSO what is "KS" codes?
     
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  14. theruckman

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    man, just when you think you know alot about Tivo....thanks for that info.
    SO it NOW seems to be holding steady at 15hrs left, could this be right? 15hrs???? UGH
    I did this on my main desktop....but I have my laptop and some others of course.....thoughts? could it take that long?
    current rate of reading is like 55,000kbs
     
  15. jmbach

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    Depends on the number of bad sectors


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  16. theruckman

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    no bad sectors yet, but 28 "read errors" but its only 25% done I think......12hrs left.......8hrs into it:eek:
    anyway hoping for the best....let you know
     
  17. theruckman

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    Well this stinks, I interupted it and hoping I dont have to start all over

    Disk /dev/loop0: 788.8 MiB, 827146240 bytes, 1615520 sectors
    Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    [root@sysresccd ~]# ddrescue -f -n /dev/sda /dev/sdb rescue.log
    GNU ddrescue 1.24
    Press Ctrl-C to interrupt
    ipos: 2076 GB, non-trimmed: 970752 B, current rate: 0 B/s
    opos: 2076 GB, non-scraped: 0 B, average rate: 30789 kB/s
    non-tried: 924780 MB, bad-sector: 0 B, error rate: 0 B/s
    rescued: 2075 GB, bad areas: 0, run time: 18h 43m 39s
    pct rescued: 69.18%, read errors: 31, remaining time: 5h 17m
    time since last successful read: 8s
    Copying non-tried blocks... Pass 1 (forwards)^C[C^[[C^[[C^[[C
    Interrupted by user

    [root@sysresccd ~]#
     
  18. theruckman

    theruckman New Member

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    THANK GOODNESS....I typed in
    ddrescue -f -n /dev/sda /dev/sdb rescue.log
    and it picked up where it left off
     
  19. richsadams

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    I'm sure it's been asked and answered many times and I read through a lot of this thread, but couldn't make it 150 pages, so don't shoot me...

    Am I able to drop a new (WD Red) 3TB HDD into our aging Premiere XL 4 2TB box without using JMFS/MFSTools, etc. and have access to the full drive space? I think the answer is no, but I wanted confirmation from the experts.

    No need to save recordings, etc. and I have the SP list on KMTTG.

    If I not I'll either slip in a new 2TB and leave it as-is or go ahead and use the recommeded tools with the 4TB version of the same drive.

    TIA!
     
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  20. jmbach

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    The answer is no. If you do not need to save recordings then you can use MFSTools 3.32 to copy the drive to a 4 TB in a matter of 10 minutes. Use the copy command for Premieres without the "a" in the command line. It will copy the essentials including cableCARD pairing and expand the drive to use the whole drive space for recordings.
     

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