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Premiere Drive Upgrade Instructions - with all-in-one jmfs Live CD

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by comer, Sep 20, 2010.

  1. Apr 2, 2017 #2861 of 2914
    mrcowboy99

    mrcowboy99 New Member

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    My Premiere XL - TCD748000 - went belly up today. Can someone please send me an image as it would be greatly appreciated. :) (wish they would allow a upgrade like a Series 2/3 that just came out... grrrr)
     
  2. Apr 3, 2017 #2862 of 2914
    ggieseke

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    ggieseke

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  4. Apr 3, 2017 #2864 of 2914
    DRich

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    So this weekend, my Tivo Premiere XL4 wouldn't even power on, so I have ordered a new Power Supply and figured I would go ahead and upgrade my hard drive.

    If you don't mind, I have a few questions?

    1. I believe this drive would work, correct? WD Red 4TB NAS Hard Disk Drive - 5400 RPM Class SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache 3.5 Inch - WD40EFRX-Newegg.com

    2. Can I use a Drive Duplicator on a 2TB drive and 4TB drive and then just expand the drive?

    3. If I Clone the drive, will I have any configuration issues with my cable card or will I have to ask my cable company to come out like they typically would to setup?

    4. Does the new drive need to be formatted?

    5. Is there a better way? What would you experts recommend?

    Thanks in advance!
     
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  5. May 7, 2017 #2865 of 2914
    LandoG

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    My Premier 4 (TCD746320) died on me the other day. I'm trying to find an image file to put on a new drive. Can anyone help with a link to the software?

    Thank you all in advance.
     
  6. May 7, 2017 #2866 of 2914
    ThreeSoFar

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    I have a HD TiVo image from 2010. I'm not sure whether it's compatible, but I'd guess not.
     
  7. May 8, 2017 #2867 of 2914
    ggieseke

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  8. tortugapir8

    tortugapir8 New Member

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    Hard drive just failed spectacularly on my Series 4 (TCD746500) and would greatly appreciate any help on finding an image I can use for my replacement (2 TB WD Blue seemed like a good fit). Thanks!

    Editied correct model designation
     
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  9. lpwcomp

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    John's...
    While a TCD746500 is a Series 4 Tivo, it is not a Premiere 4. The Premiere 4 is a 4-tuner, digital cable only model while the TCD746500 is a 2-tuner OTA and cable model.

    I post this not to be pedantic but because the s/w for one will not work on the other.
     
  10. tortugapir8

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    Correct, my mistake! Big difference ;)
     
  11. ggieseke

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  12. jsjurek

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    Hi - first timer here. Being doing a LOT of research and now getting confused. My specifics: Tivo Premiere (2-tuner) purchased in 2011; product lifetime service. Original 320GB drive is starting to fail. Still works but I get freezing a lot when watching recordings. Going to purchase a WD AV-GP 2TB drive and use JMFS to copy/expand/supersize.

    Hardware Setup: I only have access to a MAC and cannot boot the JMFS CD. However I have parallels and I can boot the JMFS ISO from within my virtual machine. My mac has USB 2.0 ports. It's a MAC PRO (3,1 from early 2008) and I can open up the case and connect the drives with SATA. However, my research would seem to indicate that the drives won't be recognized this way, so I would be better off using USB 2.0 to SATA adapters. I know you can buy some that only cost 8-10 bucks, but on amazon they've gotten some bad reviews and some have fried their drives. So, I'm willing to invest about 18 bucks in a Cables to Go adapter which looks to be a little higher quality. But I don't want to purchase two of them if I don't have to -- see below.

    I already have a dock that says it's USB 3.0 (and I understand USB 3 causes problems with JMFS because the drivers are only for 2.0). I'd like to at least try and use this dock, given that hooking it up to USB 2.0 ports effectively renders it a 2.0 dock, right? But, I don't want to be left in a situation where I'm ready to rock and roll but realize I need to purchase an additional USB to SATA adapter because my dock cannot be seen. And I don't want to take my Tivo apart any sooner than I have to (to minimize amount of time it's out of commission).

    I am thinking of doing the following BEFORE taking apart my Tivo. Purchase one USB to SATA adapter and the 2TB drive. Then, running JMFS from the ISO in parallels and when I get the message "no tivo drive detected", to hot plug in my existing USB dock with the new/blank drive inserted. Then in JMFS, exiting out to the command prompt and typing fdisk -l to see if my drive can be "seen" (this has been a sticking point for others using docks in their hookups).

    My thought is that fdisk should tell me in advance whether or not I can use my dock. If I can see a /dev/sdX entry for the blank drive, then I should be able to use that dock for the copy process. If I do not see a /dev/sdX entry, then I will have to revert to purchasing 2 (not 1) basic USB 2.0 to SATA adapters. I am on a limited budget and trying to save myself a little money.

    Can anybody offer any insights whether my intended process is likely to succeed or any watch-outs? (Mac Pro, running Parallels, booting from JMFS ISO, using USB 2.0 to SATA adapters). I've done enough research that I'm confident in the JMFS process itself (ie: hooking both original & upgrade drive up at one time w/ USB ports); I just want to make sure my set-up can read & access the drives. Thanks in advance.
     
  13. BillJohnston

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    XL4 TCD758250 20.7.1 has WD20EURS going to WD40EURX AV-GP

    I'm awaiting the 4TB drive to be shipped from CA to GA by Newegg through E.O.L, some days now though not yet shipped.

    When I first looked at the rosswalker Guide to Upgrading the Tivo it seemed straight forward using the premiere_linux_inc_supersize_jmfs-rev104.iso.

    Further reading seems to say the jmfs-rev104 won't get that job done but it's not clear if that failure is true on the 758 or just earlier. I've also read some threads that indicate I'll need a second 2TB drive.

    Just to see if the CD would boot properly on my machine, a Maximus VI and the CD in an external USB CD drive, it did and promptly told me there was no Tivo drive in the system.

    Further reading on TivoCommunity seems to indicate that to move from the 2TB, which is at 93% capacity just now, to the 4TB, not yet shipped, I would be better off using MFSTools_3.2 so I downloaded and burned the jmbach version. I did boot to this as well but found no files. In the root directory I only found bin and nothing in that directory. I wonder if the program would better execute if there were a Tivo drive in the system.

    For now, while at the >90% of the 316 HD hours, I wonder if I should run Supersize on the native 2TB drive for more space while waiting for the 4TB. If I do, will this change effect my migration to the 4TB drive, e.g. would I be better served not supersizing before the migration?

    Will the rosswalker Guides suggestion of using the jmfs-rev104 get the job done?

    Thanks for advice on this. I appreciate the website and work you guys put in.

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    Going back I see post 2819 and a few before seem to address this.

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    On the MFSTools_3.2, I found I was in a subdirectory. linux:/cd .. got me to the root directory.
     
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  14. jmbach

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    I don't think rosswalker even addresses a 4TB Premiere. jmfs-rev104 will not get the job done cleanly and more than likely you are going to have to find the modified jmfs to attempt a 4TB Premiere image. Your best bet is to use MFSTools 3.2. The tools are located in the /usr/local/bin directory but you can run them from any directory on the ISO.
     
  15. BillJohnston

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    Yes, I have the MFSTools 3.2 you posted and thanks. It's ready to go when the drive arrives. On that score, Newegg said the drive would be shipped by end of day Wednesday May 10th. But turns out they're just reselling for another company, E.O.L. Tech, also in California. Newegg sent me a shipping label for tracking yesterday, Friday, but that was nothing more than intent to get it to the USPS. And today there has been no further movement on that tracking number. No answer to a telephone call to Newegg either. Maybe they're at the beach surfing and will do something Monday. I'm tempted to cancel the order and get a 3TB from Amazon or Staples asap.
     
  16. jcondon

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    I just upgraded one of my original 320GB Tivo Premiers to a 3TB WD 30EFRX using the JMFS 1.04 DVD. Took 3 hours or so to copy an almost full drive, extend and then Supersize. I also downloaded and ran the WD tool that tests the drive and let that run overnight.


    For me 401 HD hours (3515 SD hours) should be enough for a while and I didn't want to deal with the extra expense and work required to go to 4TB.

    If I need more space I would probably just upgrade my other Premiere's 320GB drive.

    I had replaced the fan on the one I upgraded last year. Still made a bit of noise. Thought maybe it was the HD. Nope still the fan. Will have to order a new one at some point. Fan works fine just a bit noisy.


    Anyway JMFS 1.04 software worked great for me.
     
  17. jmbach

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    At best using JMFS only will gain you 2 TB of recording space. If you had the whole 3 TB of recording space you would have 479 hours of HD. By the capacity you report, you obviously are not using the whole 3TB capacity. More than likely you have 320GB plus 2 TB for about 2.3 TB recording space.
     
  18. jcondon

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    Yeah looking at screen shots in the various threads here I think I ended up with more then 2TB but less then 3TB. Not sure it is worth the effort to redo all this though. If end up doing this again I would try the MFS 3.2 Tool I guess.
     
  19. jmbach

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    That would be your best bet. It really all depends on how full your drive is on a regular basis. Might be a reasonable thing to do if it is over 80% . If you another drive of equal or more capacity, you could clone your current TiVo drive to that drive and use MFSTools 3.2 to copy the content back to the original drive.
     
  20. jcondon

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    Thanks for the info. I don't have another 3TB or larger drive I can use. Perhaps if down the road I decide to upgrade the other Premiere I will do as you say.

    Both Premiere's with the original 320GB were at 80-90% full. Now we can move some stuff off the smaller Tivo. I am hoping this will buy us a few more years. Maybe by then it will be time for us to get new machines anyway.

    Even with the lost space our nearly full Premiere is like 90% empty now.
     

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