Premier XL (2 Tuner - OTA and cable) and Bolt+ (6 Tuner - cable only)

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by Sparky1234, Nov 27, 2020.

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    Where are you looking? See >this page< for the path to the Network Status dialog; and be sure to check for additional pages within the Network Status screen, using the Channel Up/Down buttons. (Add'l pages will be indicated by a upward/downward caret[^].)
     
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    Paying for: 300 Mbps down 300 Mbps up

    Testing at: 308 Mbps down 180 Mbps up

    Actual down from servers: Best 85 Mbps; avg ~ 25-60 Mbps

    Connecting to multiple web pages: ~ 15-18 Mbps
     
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    Sticks with location. One Mini is connected via ethernet and works all the time the other is via coax. Swapped them with same results.
     
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    * using a 2-way splitter in front of the BOLT+? Tried this and mini works with splitter next to Bolt but when mini is returned to its intended location same V112 issue.

    Peer Node
    TX PHY 280742705
    RX PHY 280125205
    TX power... -25.00
    RX power... -38.04

    Per Node:
    TX PHY 269711538
    RX PHY 282852564
    TX power... -25.00
    RX power... -46.07

    Same for Mini connected to Bolt+ with splitter and at intended location.
     
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    MoCA Mini still not working!
     
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    Are you confident that you tried this 2-way splitter setup long enough to confirm the V112 errors subsided for this config?
     
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    Is the coax plant currently being used for anything OTHER than your MoCA connectivity project? If the coax is now ONLY being used for your purposes, it would make sense to disconnect any lines that aren't part of your solution, to shrink the coax plant as much as possible and minimize losses between nodes. With the critical paths identified, unused lines can be excluded from the coax plant and splitters right-sized to just the number of outputs (splits) required, even eliminating splits where possible (e.g. replacing a 2-way splitter with a 3 GHz F-81 barrel connector).

    Given all the question marks(?) in your diagram ...

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    ... have you tried using a coax tester (such as this) or perhaps even your BOLT+ and/or Mini[1] to identify the critical lines between each and the G3100?

    NOTE[1]: With your BOLT+ at its intended location, you could disconnect/connect the coax lines, using barrel connectors where necessary, until you've determined just which line(s) must be connected for the BOLT+ to get its MoCA connection. Same for the Mini location.

    Also, given the issues communicating between the BOLT+ and Mini, I'd suggest altering the coax tree to have the G3100 and the coax lines to both TiVo boxes (BOLT+ and Mini) connected via outputs of the top-level splitter, and with a "PoE" MoCA filter added to this splitter's input port (and the "PoE" MoCA filter either capped w/ a 75-ohm terminator or connected via coax to the FiOS ONT).

    For example:
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    (I assumed the ONT & G3100 are connected via Ethernet, rather than digging back through the thread.)

    It's possible that just redoing the top-level splitter as pictured, w/ a "PoE" MoCA filter on its input and the MoCA nodes all connected via outputs, could address the issue, but eliminating unnecessary coax lines/splits would still be recommended.
     
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    1 hour long enough?
     
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    Wow! Thanks for your detailed effort. I used the Bolt / Mini to test the coax to test all the lines but it's a jumble requiring multiple connections to get a signal; I could not effectively isolate a signal. I may need that tester to proceed.

    I like this suggestion.

    Let me work it and I will post back.

    Again a big THANKS!
     
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    I dunno. How frequent were the V112 errors before, and how much use did the Mini experience during the hour? Regardless, the recommended changes should be pursued if only to make the coax plant as MoCA-hospitable as possible, and the homeowner can reap the benefits of all the coax tracing you’re doing (assuming you label your findings ;)).
     
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    Southwire Coax Continuity Analog Specialty Meter arrived yesterday. Seems to be a decent product, I hope it works better than my Ohm meter did on these old coax lines. Ohm meter results were inconclusive. Starting the line testing today but it's really cold outside.
     
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    Traced the coax with the Southwire which worked quite well, I owe them a positive Amazon review. I was able to repair and isolate necessary coax and eliminate splitters and extra coax lines. I have attached the new connections which are close to what you proposed. Changes are due to local wiring and access limitations. I am immediately still getting the V112 error whenever I try to play any content from the Premiere or Bolt, same as before. The mini sees the Premiere and Bolt, connects to the internet via MoCA, MoCA numbers on the Mini and Bolt appear good. Both Bolt and Mini are in Client mode. I power reset the entire system twice but still no luck. Network has now been connected for over 6 hours with no improvement.

    Bolt+ always reverts back to Bridge mode when I plug in the ethernet cable. I set it up as a client but as soon as I connect the ethernet cable bridge mode is turned on. Mini still shows V112 either way.

    The G3100 lists the Bolt+ MAC as off by one number as :A9 instead of actual :A8, odd.

    Coax lines are all labeled now for homeowners future uses, but homeowner doesn't have any future plans to use the coax.

    Questions:

    The Bolt+ keeps defaulting to Bridge mode, should I turn off bridge mode in the G3100 if that's possible? - Update: This can not be turned off in the G3100.
    I'm using POE Antronix GLF-1002B1, is this correct?
    Splitters are 2 - 2 way MoCA compliant, any specific recommendation to swap them out/troubleshoot?
     

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    Anyone successfully using Fios G3100 router with MoCA?
     
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    MoCA setup appears to be a bust!
     
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    krkaufman your expert thought?
     
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    Sorry, I really haven’t had time this week, and it’s time more than any expertise that is usually applied.

    Unable to dig back in, my one thought was whether some other MoCA adapter could be used at the problematic Mini’s location to proxy the MoCA connection for the Mini.
     

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