So, I was in Best Buy today, and browsing through their aisle with DirecTV and Tivos. I noticed that they pretty much had nothing left except R10s and the HR10-250s. I also saw that they had 1 HDVR2 in the display cubbie, hooked to nothing. There wasn't even a price tag on it. I grabbed a sales guy and asked him if they had any more of THAT model (pointing to the lone display HDVR2). He said "let me check", and walked around the aisle looking up top. They didn't have anymore. I asked (out of curiosity, more than anything else) if he could sell the display model. He said "I think so... but why do you want it. We have these [R10s] FREE after a $100 rebate! " I (honestly) told him "Because THIS on can be upgraded; THOSE can not." After looking at the price terminal for a while, he said "You can have this one for $60.00. We've got access cards; I can get you one; I'll dig up a remote and power cord." Now, I had no intention of (nor do I really need) another active Tivo in the house. I already have more than I have TVs. So..... I asked if I could buy it WITHOUT an access card (no contract) and knock the $20 off the price. To my utter surprise, he said "SURE", wrote me an "open box" tag for $39.99, and handed me the box, a remote, and a power cord. When I got up to the register to pay, the cashier guy said "OH.... this is open box DVR.... we're having a managers special on open box items today... an additional 20% off."; he called over a manager who did a price over-ride! I walked out of the store with my unplanned purchase for $33.43 (after 4.5% tax). No commitment to activate any time soon (if ever), AND it has the normal manufacturers warranty. As a bonus, the remote he gave me was one of the switchable ones that can be set up for two Tivos (I was considering one of those for $34 from Tivo anyway). When I fired it up at home to see if it worked, the drive was full of programming.... including a few Pay-Per View Movies!!! Can't beat that with a stick! Time to zipper and set up my new networked storage unit!!!