PPV Boxing and MMA

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by Twiddler, Aug 6, 2007.

  1. Aug 6, 2007 #1 of 13
    Twiddler

    Twiddler New Member

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    I really enjoy my tivo S3...this is my second tivo as I had the Directv HD one a year or two ago. I'm now running my S3 with timewarner cable and the one thing I miss is...pay piew view sporting events like big boxing matches and UFC. What do tivo owners do to get these events? Am I out of luck? With directv...you could ordere events on the box or you could call them and order directly but I don't think TW offers phone in ordering. Some of these events I can rent online and watch on my computer...so I imagine there will come a day when I can either rent them on my tivo directly or stream them from my desktop...but are there any solutions for PPV sports that exist today?

    thanks again

    Andy
     
  2. Aug 6, 2007 #2 of 13
    davecramer74

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    i think you can still get them on a designated ppv channel. With that said, easiest workaround would be to stop by and pick up a box at your local cable store and drop the thing off the next day.
     
  3. Aug 6, 2007 #3 of 13
    talmania

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    You can place a call to the cable company and order the PPV event and then tune to the channel on your tivo and it will be there.

    I did this with the last big MMA event (Liddell vs Jackson). I could even record the event, however it would only let me go back like 90 minutes or so.
     
  4. Aug 6, 2007 #4 of 13
    Twiddler

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    I just called TimeWarner and they said I could! Their phone system seems unfriendly to this but it does seem possible. :) Thank you! I can't wait for ufc 74 on aug 25...I've been watching since ufc 12.
     
  5. Twiddler

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    Update: Sadly I called TW and they let me rent UFC74 this evening and the girl said "it will be on both your cable cards"...tonight all I see is grey screen of death. I called support who said that they should never of sold it since they can't sell PPV that way...only when 2 way cards come out later in the year. I am disappointed and frustrated and wonder if weekend tech support is simply confused. I guess I'll not be able to rent PPV sports until 2008.
     
  6. sfhub

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    You can't order onDemand stuff without 2-way, but PPV on the fixed channels should be fine.

    Are you sure your CableCARDs are paired properly and if so, how are you determining that?
     
  7. Twiddler

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    I don't know if my cards are paired properly...can you tell me how I would check this?
     
  8. sfhub

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    Bring up the CableCARD Conditional Access diagnostic menu and post the contents of the screen. For Motorola cards, "Host Validation" should say "Valid ##" I don't remember what SA cards say, but someone here will chime in.
     
  9. jrm01

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    If you are receiving other premium channels I would think that it is not a pairing problem, but an authorization problem. Any time you add a premium channel the company has to make a change in their billing system and then send out an authorization hit to the cablecard (based on the card serial number). Most likely they did not authorize your card properly (if at all).
     
  10. sfhub

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    Receiving premium channels is not the indicator to look for.

    Receiving premium channels with non-zero CCI is the indicator.

    In my area, prior to enabling CPMS, all our premiums had CCI=0. We could move our CableCARDs around all we wanted, to new devices, swap slots on S3, etc. and we would still get premiums.

    After they enabled CPMS, some of the premiums started getting non-zero CCI values and only those channels required pairing to be done properly, however not all our premiums had non-zero CCI even after they enabled CPMS. HBO for instance did not.

    I can see a scenario where they have the CPMS infrastructure ready to go, but either haven't enabled it full-time for regular channels yet or have only enabled it on some premium channels. I can also see a scenario where OP doesn't have premiums or premiums with non-zero CCI, whereas PPV is almost always non-zero CCI if CPMS is available.
     
  11. Twiddler

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    I took photos of the diagnostic screens since I thought that was easiest. Am I paired correctly?
    http://twiddler.typepad.com/photos/tivo/
     
  12. sfhub

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    CP Auth Received means they are paired properly so it isn't a pairing problem.

    There are some more diagnostics here:
    http://customersupport.tivo.com/TiVoCollection/f8f40dc6-5fb6-4ed8-ac41-d8cd0d5c0824/ins_Content.html

    Some of them require you to be watching the channel in question, which for PPV would mean during the event.

    You'll need to decide how much effort you'd like to put in to diagnose the problem. You might be able to convince them to give you a free set top box for ordering PPV. Some cable companies do that.
     
  13. sfhub

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    The 2-way part of CableCARD is just needed to order the PPV (assuming it is fixed channel PPV, not onDemand). Since you did that by phone, the rest is decryption and authorization stuff. You can diagnose some of that using the TiVo support page and the data your CableCARDs are showing you.
     

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