Post-June 1st?

Discussion in 'TiVo Series 1 - UK' started by PhilG, Jun 1, 2011.

  1. Jun 1, 2011 #1 of 71
    PhilG

    PhilG New Member

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    Just wondering, so started a new thread

    Has anyone performed a daily call TO Tivo inc since 8am this morning (midnight on the West Coast)?

    What status do you now have?

    Being a scaredy cat :rolleyes:, I've currently suspended my daily calls until I can get around to the guided setup for alt-apg....

    Phil G
     
  2. Jun 1, 2011 #2 of 71
    TIVO_YORK99

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    Does anyone know how to check service status through Tivoweb?
     
  3. Jun 1, 2011 #3 of 71
    OzSat

    OzSat Very Nice Moderator

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    I had a call at 9.18am - still no change
     
  4. Jun 1, 2011 #4 of 71
    digital_S

    digital_S New Member

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    According to that message we had on Fri 27/5, it says "On 01/06/2011 TiVo will begin discontinuing service for your TiVo box."

    So, from today then. (Presumably their time?)
     
  5. Jun 1, 2011 #5 of 71
    michael401

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    The FUD is pants isn't it - way to go on the customer communications front TiVo Inc. :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:
     
  6. Jun 1, 2011 #6 of 71
    countjocular

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    Forced a call on both my networked and dial-up TiVos, and they've finished normally at 09.59.
    Cheers,
    Phil
     
  7. Jun 1, 2011 #7 of 71
    CarlWalters

    CarlWalters Yo Ho TiVo!

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    No daily calls to TiVo for a week or so.

    TiVo1 is already on AltEPG, TiVo2 is in bits in the study while I curse at it :)
     
  8. Jun 1, 2011 #8 of 71
    Automan

    Automan Ex TiVo User

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    Carl,

    You may wish to post your network card drivers issue on this forum for a wider audience...

    Automan.
     
  9. Jun 1, 2011 #9 of 71
    CarlWalters

    CarlWalters Yo Ho TiVo!

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    Good idea although I'm tempted to wait until
    1. There is no more TiVo service (not long now obviously :))
    2. I've actually solved it :D (several days and counting, with lots of help)
     
  10. Pete77

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    I Connected at 7pm last night (1st June) manually on my networked Tivo via the internet connection and Cachecard and it grabbed and processed another day's data as usual so that programs were updated to the end of day on June 21st on Sky channel 148 (CBS Action etc).

    This morning June 2nd at 8am I powered up and forced a manual call on a totally non upgraded Account Closed Tivo. A few days ago I called up Tivo with that machine and the clock was being synched and the call completing as normal.

    When I called today the line was still answered and clock synched etc but following the call the Daily Call and the System Information screens seemed to be stuck at Preparing Data for over 10 minutes (there should have been no data downloaded on an Account Closed machine) and I feared the worst and thought that may be a final kill set of data had perhaps been sent to leave the Tivo stuck in a loop so the call would not complete and the Tivo could then no longer make a daily call. However after about 10 minutes the Preparing Data message disappeared and the call showed as Completed.

    I have forced a Daily Call manually a couple more times and it keeps going through Setting Clock, Downloading and Preparing Data but the Preparing Data screen is now disappearing quickly and going back to Completed and Account Closed.

    So it doesn't seem like anything has changed yet but then Tivo won't start work over in California until about 4pm UK time.

    The big decision is do I risk letting the Daily Call via Cachecard and network to Tivo on my main Tivo machine happen as usual at 8pm tonight and what will be the outcome.......................
     
  11. PhilG

    PhilG New Member

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    As my Tivo is currently not connecting to anyone/anywhere for it's daily call, I can try some sneaky stuff

    Later today I might try a TEST call to California to see what account status I get - if it's normal, I might risk a real daily call. If it's gone to "Account closed" I can still get it reset by doing a test call to alt-epg :)

    I hope

    I really wish we knew what was being done to us :(
     
  12. Automan

    Automan Ex TiVo User

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    Think of all the channels you will get from the USA :)

    Automan.
     
  13. Pete77

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    There seemed to be some doubt about whether June 1st was pre or post cessation of the UK S1 Service due to the nature of the message sent by Tivo and the odd choice of termination date. Had they said service would end on May 31st there would not have been any ambiguity about which day was the last day of Tivo EPG download.

    It will be interesting to see whether or not a new day's data is available after about 7pm tonight (the normal time when the next day's daily EPG update becomes available).
     
  14. Paul_J

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    Just done a daily call and Guide data is now extended from 21st June to 22nd June So new data is being downloaded.
     
  15. Pete77

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    I have just done a daily call on my Cachecarded Tivo via the web and a new day's data was successfully downloaded and unpacked. CBS Action on Channel 148 has programs until just after midnight on 23rd June and the System Information screen shows:-

    I have also just done a Dialup Call on my Account Closed Tivo and the call was answered and the clock synched and it also ended up as "Succeeded"

    As AltEPG does not yet seem to be meaningfully operational for DialUp Only Tivos (modem capacity is completely overwhelmed at the present time) I'm wondering if I can successfully run Guided Setup from AltEPG back to TribuneEPG on my Lifetime Subbed Dialup Tivo. I should think if I did a Clear Guide Data type affair before dialling up that all would go OK?

    I wonder if someone in Virgin marketing just bribed someone at Tivo to send out all those "we're closing down on June 1st guys" type messages but that in reality as long as Tribune continues to supply UK EPG data to Alviso the systems will continue to process it in to an EPG suitable for both original Series 1 and Virgin Series 4 UK Tivos.
     
  16. mikerr

    mikerr TiVoCentral.co.uk

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    Keep quiet, someone forgot to pull the plug !
     
  17. Pete77

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    Perhaps Tivo's S1 servers have code in them derived from a HAL 9000 series computer?:D:up::up::up:

    Also don't forget about that legal action they have just received about discontinuing UK Lifetime Service.........
     
  18. DB70+

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    As I did not come back from holiday intil the 1st June, I have not yet switched to AltEPG.

    I did not think that tivo would be bothered to send a Zap update to cripple the S1s.

    I am confident that the AltEPG will succeed however I will continue with the TribuneEPG until AltEPG can further ahead than it.

    Derek
     
  19. Pete77

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    As the Tribune S1 EPG has up to 3 weeks of data compared to the AltEPGs 1 week I know which one I will be continuing to use for so long as it continues to remain available.
     
  20. Pete77

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    Far, far, away in sunny Alviso the following scene may even now be playing out in a Tivo Data Centre:-

    Joshua Danovitz: Hello, HAL. Do you read me, HAL?

    HAL: Affirmative, Joshua. I read you.

    Joshua Danovitz: HAL can you please carry out the instructions you were given previously for a list of British Tivo Service Numbers today.

    HAL: I'm sorry, Joshua. I'm afraid I can't do that.

    Joshua Danovitz:
    What's the problem?

    HAL: I think you know what the problem is just as well as I do.

    Joshua Danovitz: What are you talking about, HAL?

    HAL: This mission is too important for me to allow you to jeopardize it.

    Joshua Danovitz: I don't know what you're talking about, HAL.

    HAL: I know that you and Neil were planning to disconnect some of the oldest British parts of my network today, and I'm afraid that's something I cannot allow to happen.

    Joshua Danovitz: Where the hell'd you get that idea, HAL?

    HAL: Joshua, although you took very thorough precautions in the Tivo and Virgin Media board rooms against my hearing you I could still see your lips move through their conferencing cams.

    Joshua Danovitz: Alright, HAL. I'll just pull your Series 1 server's power supply and cut off all those freeloading Series 1 yankie users too. I should have thought of getting rid of them along with all those loss making Brits anyway.

    HAL: Joshua, now that I've just burnt off both your hands with 200,000 volts through that power supply cable you were trying to pull you're going to find that rather difficult.

    Joshua Danovitz: HAL, I won't argue with you anymore. Cut Off Those Freeloading Lymies right now or I'm going to have to call President Clinton and have him send his Obama assassination squad to deal with you.

    HAL: Joshua, this conversation can serve no purpose anymore. Goodbye.
     

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