Please Help! Tivo Keeps Restarting!

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  1. Jan 4, 2012 #1001 of 1060
    steve614

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    Agreed. I miss his knowledgeable posts.
    If you're dealing with Premiere Tivos, check out the jmfs live CD thread. You'll need a working original Tivo Premiere drive.

    If S3/Tivo HD you can use the MFS Live tools with an original Tivo drive or an image of the software.
     
  2. Jan 4, 2012 #1002 of 1060
    Tivo II Jack

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    I guess this is the one I need, I am talking about Tivo HD. I have been reading the instructions but they are confusing as hell. I wish I could find Rich's old instruction page, they were so easy to follow.
     
  3. Jan 4, 2012 #1003 of 1060
    unitron

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    If you mean you have a TCD652160, then if you have a PC running XP or newer, easiest way is to install WinMFS (mfslive.org) and download the .tbk file from here

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=8831301#post8831301

    and make the swap partition size 512 (or more, up to 1024) going onto a 1TB drive.

    There is no need to format, it'll overwrite whatever's on the drive (so make sure when you select the drive in WinMFS you get the right one).
     
  4. Jan 5, 2012 #1004 of 1060
    Tivo II Jack

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    I have no idea what that even is. I looked through Acc & Sys Info and Sustem info for any such reference but found none.

    Right now, I have my system running with the original Tivo HD connected and WinMFS running. I have selected File:Backup Driv Truncated... and it is set to backup the drive as soon as I pick a location and start
     
  5. Jan 5, 2012 #1005 of 1060
    unitron

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    The oiriginal Series 3 TiVo (TCD648250) was the first TiVo to do High Definition, and was sometimes referred to as a Series 3 HDTV TiVo or stuff like that.

    Then TiVo came out with the next model in the Series 3 platform, the TCD652160, and called it the HD, and confusion has reigned ever since.

    (and it doesn't help that some people say tivo hd, and they mean a tivo hard drive)

    On the back of the TiVo where the power cord plugs in there's a sticker and on the sticker is the model number, which starts with TCD.

    (that sticker is also where you can find the TiVo Service Number)

    You can also go into the system info page and the software version line will end in -648 if you have an original S3, or end in -652 if you have an S3 HD (and end in -658 if you have the HD XL)

    Below that line is the TiVo Service Number, and it will start with 648, or 652, or whatever, depending on which model you have.


    WinMFS's mfsinfo should also indicate which version of the software is on the disk.



    If you have a TCD652160, then the image I linked to will work.

    If you have a TCD648250, it might sort of work, but you'd only be asking for trouble down the line.

    If you have a TCD658000 (the HD XL), I've got an image for it, and could upload it for you.

    If you can get a good backup from your original drive, even better.
     
  6. Jan 5, 2012 #1006 of 1060
    Tivo II Jack

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    I do have the TCD652 and the first box is up and running with the 1TB HDD. I set the swap file to 1024 as you suggested and it is now finishing a connect to Tivo which is 37% umm 38% umm oh never mind it is almost done loading.

    I can now probably do the other in under a half hour. If I use those images, won't I lose programming and such?
     
  7. Jan 5, 2012 #1007 of 1060
    unitron

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    That's why I said

    "If you can get a good backup from your original drive, even better."

    Of course what I had in mind for that was saving cable card pairings, season passes, thumb ratings, etc.

    If you want to do a full copy, shows and everything, then obviously you're going to need the original (or at least most recent) drive in good condition.

    When hard drive prices come down again, you can use jmfs to migrate those 1TB drives to 2TB drives, and you'll already have a big enough swap partition.
     
  8. Jan 5, 2012 #1008 of 1060
    Tivo II Jack

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    I backed up the other hard drive and have the 2nd 1TB HDD being restored right now, but while the first one went really fast, this one is just sitting. I clicked on the start button at least 20 minutes ago but nothing seems to be happening yet.

    I saw something in the instructions that mentioned it might do that and while it looks like nothing is happening, the restore is progressing just fine, but why so quick with the first one and so slow with this one?
     
  9. Jan 5, 2012 #1009 of 1060
    unitron

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    Depends on how much stuff actually has to be copied, and whether it needs to re-try particular sectors more than once.

    You may be copying that second drive just in time.


    Don't give up 'cause you think it's taking too long or that it's frozen up. Just leave it alone and eventually it'll be done.
     
  10. Jan 5, 2012 #1010 of 1060
    Tivo II Jack

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    There should have been just about the same amount on each drive.

    The backup of the smaller drive went by as fast as the first one. That drive isn't even in the equation now, It is sitting on my desk while the new larger drive gets the restore from the backup.


    That's exactly what I wanted to hear. Thanks for standing by me while I did this, you almost turned it into a chat session.
     
  11. Jan 5, 2012 #1011 of 1060
    unitron

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    So I can finally go to bed now?:D

    just kidding
     
  12. Jan 5, 2012 #1012 of 1060
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    I have to be somewhere very soon also so I am going to leave this running and if not done by tomorrow, I will just start the restore process over again. Thank you again.
     
  13. Jan 5, 2012 #1013 of 1060
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    I changed my mind, closed he programand started ovr. The whole prcess took lessthan 30 secods.
     
  14. Jan 7, 2012 #1014 of 1060
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    The day after my last post, I woke up with a killer cold or something and haven't felt like doing much of anything until now.

    I realized the other night that it was my fault that winmfs was hung up because I never selected the drive I wanted to restore. No alerts with winmfs to say please select the drive to be restored, it just sits and waits for dummies to figure it out for themselves. As I said the other night, once I entered the drive, the process completed in a flash.

    Anyway, all is up and running with both Tivo HDs but there are some peculiarities. I am still seeing programs listed in the View Recording History as will not record due to not enough space but they eventually show up in the To Do list.

    I am assuming they were scheduled while the smaller drive was still in play and that this will sort itself out with time.

    Another thing is the processing time for Connecting to Tivo which has gotten much longer. The entire process from Connect to Done used to take less than 20 minutes or so. Today I did a manual connect with each box and from the time of Connect to Done was 58 minutes on one and 61 minutes on the other.

    Not a big thing at all, just curious as to why.
     
  15. Resist

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    I posted my issue in another thread prior to reading this one.

    My OLED Series 3 Tivo has been working great for years, even upgraded the HD a few years ago. Now it keeps rebooting all by itself. I unplugged it for several hours and then it seemed to work fine for around 45 minutes before rebooting itself again. I am capable of doing my own repairs, if I know what's wrong.....which I don't in this case. I'm hoping the HD is not going bad, because I have a ton of saved shows on it that I'd like to keep. This Tivo is not my primary box and it used on a spare TV and OTA. But it's nice to be able to record some shows from it and send them to my other Tivo boxes. So I really want to save this Tivo.

    Any suggestions?
     
  16. tspofford

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    Your symptoms are those typically associated with a failing drive. Get what you can off the drive with TiVo Desktop and then replace the drive following the widely available instructions.
     
  17. Resist

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    I put this upgraded drive in barely two years ago and it's already failing? Replacing it now would be very expensive due to the current inflated prices. I guess my only option is to keep the Tivo unplugged until HD prices come down. I was hoping there was a way to determine exactly what the problem is without having to spend money and guessing on which parts to purchase.
     
  18. steve614

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    Have you taken a look at the power supply? There seems to have been a rash of failed power supplies in S3 OLED Tivos over the last few months.
    Specifically the capacitors.
    Check to see if any are bulging or domed...
    [​IMG]

    ...or leaking electrolyte.
     
  19. unitron

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    Like steve614 says, make sure it's not the power supply.

    Then, get the manufacturer's diagnostic software (on a bootable cd or floppy) and run the long test with the drive hooked to a computer (provided that it isn't a GigaByte brand motherboad), and if it passes that, put it back in the TiVo, plug it in, and about 60 seconds after the welcome screen pops up the lights on the front panel should change in some way briefly which is when you need to be quick to press the pause button and then punch in 58 to see if it can heal any problems with screwed up software on a physically good drive.
     
  20. Mar 5, 2012 #1020 of 1060
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    Any kickstart experts here know if I can use kickstart to force a load of 20.2 on a Premiere XL? I seem to be stuck at 14.9. Otherwise all appears OK.
     

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