Sorry for the long winded "question" .... you can skip to them bottom for the tl;dr September 2016 I moved to a rental house and decided it was time to pay cable companies a little bit less. I bought a Bolt 500, got the cable card from the provider, and have been happy since. Not a single problem, beyond paying Tivo $150 every 12 months. I also already had a FireTv which I used for the bedroom. It worked perfectly for what was needed - Netflix, Prime, etc. Occasionally, I would even use that Beta Tivo app to watch DVRed shows from the Bolt. Bear in mind, this is a rental, but also an old house with 0 internal cabling. My WiFi signal is terrific, and sufficed for the streaming from Bolt to Fire in the remote room. As we know, Tivo ditched the Beta app for Fire a few months ago. Minor annoyance, and change in my viewing habits, but c'est la vie. I was waiting to see if they would restore it. Don't see that happening. Last week I got the "Aha moment" and realized I have a spare Bolt 500 that my Father did not take with him when he moved, which I have been holding on to for insurance. I decided to hook it to the remote TV and see if it could connect via WiFi to my legacy Bolt. (Remember, ethernet and MOCA are non starters). You know the story: The second Bolt required a subscription (of course it does). For proof of concept, I have paid a month to see how it works, and I can copy (and to a lesser degree stream) recorded shows from the original Bolt. Since I have no second cable card, and won't be paying for one, that obviously does not work. Clearly, paying $15 a month for the privilege of convenient viewing of some recorded shows is not a long term solution, considering my FireTV provides everything else I need and it's cost is already sunk. So ... Questions: Am I correct to assume that once I discontinue the second subscription, the second box will lose visibility to the original immediately? I assume they never will replace the Fire Tivo app. Where is the market for getting rid of old Bolts? eBay?