PlayStation3 & TiVo (merged thread)

Discussion in 'TiVo Series 1 - UK' started by DavidA_UK, Aug 2, 2007.

  1. alextegg

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    Well, obviously I don't mean just as an extender, but for that on top !
     
  2. TCM2007

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    I own three 360s just as extenders!
     
  3. alextegg

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    Yes, I have played with Linux on my PS3, but have no real use for it beyond that. I think to use the Linux platform PS3 as a PVR would fall into the v. hard basket...
     
  4. alextegg

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    Sounds like you need to find some like minded friends for some excellent games evenings :p
     
  5. TCM2007

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    I own one game, and that only gets played by the babysitter!
     
  6. alextegg

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    :D Best not suggest that the babysitter has gaming parties, then ;)
     
  7. mrtickle

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    Indeed. It's an extremely poor design given that TiVo was already filtering duplicates and handling conflicts much more intelligently, and the've had so long to copy it.

    I'd say "unforgivably dumb and a missed opportunity". Sky's proposed solution of just "throwing more tuners at it" only goes some way to working around the problem. I believe that the I'm still impressed with the way TiVo works around clashes with a single tuner; the twin-tuner TiVos must be really great at it!

    The new Freeview Playback spec (http://www.dtg.org.uk/publications/books/dtvr_spec.pdf]) includes this nice little nugget:
    So then, if the Freeview EPG contains required Alternate Instance Information, Freeview PVRs will be able to intelligently resolve clashes. Expect Sky+ to suddenly catch up after that!

    Well yes - "if the guide data isn't up to scratch". For the majority of the main channels, it is up to scratch and so is relatively rare. When it does happen, if you couldn't predict it from TiVo's handy easy-to-understand ToDo list, deleting the extra recordings isn't anything like as annoying as missing the programme which would happen on the Sky+ system!
     
  8. TCM2007

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    My worry is that it sounds like it's set server side, instead of TiVo/MCE's client side approach.


    I don't find it rare; it's pretty much the default for shows on BBC3, BBC4 and More4. :( MCE is as bad as TiVo so I think it's poor source data.)

    Because most of my SD programming is done on MCE, I very rarely hit a clash on the Sky box.
     
  9. Sneals2000

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    Well - it is called PlayTV, is an external USB dual-tuner device, and uses the Freeview EPG. It is due to launch early next year in the UK, France, Germany and Spain (i.e. the main DVB-T territories) followed by Scandinavia (Sweden has HD via DVB-T for SVT HD at 720p in H264)

    The EPG navigation in the demo looks very fast indeed - and if it supports the Freeview Playback metadata it could be a very nice solution indeed.

    Other useful features include remote record setting from a PSP (via Internet Wifi) AND fast transcoding from PS3 recordings to a format that the PSP will play, to allow downloading to the PSP for watching shows on the move.
     
  10. Anndra

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    Wow. Looks to be the opposite. Whoda thunk?
     
  11. CarlWalters

    CarlWalters Yo Ho TiVo!

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    It certainly looks interesting and since I already have a PS3 , a PSP and a wireless network I reckon I will be trying it out next year (well - as soon as I can get one cheap in the Staff Shop anyway).

    I already transfer stuff from TiVo to my PSP and iPod for train entertainment but it is a bit of a clunky solution just to catch up on all things Ambridge. :D
     
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  13. Sneals2000

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    Yep - the US market for FTA OTA Digital TV is significantly smaller, because Cable is so much more popular. Cablecard is a pretty tricky technology to support compared to DVB-T OTA (aka Freeview and other European DTT services - like TNT in France and Boxer in Sweden) - and Sony have plenty of experience with DVB-T in Europe with their pretty good STBs and DVD Recorders with integrated Freeview.
     
  14. Sneals2000

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    Isn't this talking about the PSP Sky/Sony downloadable content service (which I'm guessing might be related to the PC version of Sky Anytime?) - which is NOT the same as the PS3 PVR service (though the latter also allows conversion and download of material on the PS3 to the PSP).

    Having seen the PlayTV service demo - it looks nothing like anything Sky offer, and has no Sky branding. It bears much more of a resemblance to Front Row/Back Row on the Mac/Apple TV. (Particularly the icons scrolling around a circular 3D path at an angle)
     
  15. Sneals2000

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    I wonder if this is still the case (realise the post is from a while ago) for the 360. How much cheaper have the components got since the 360 was launched? I imagine quite a few things have come down in price quite a lot.

    AIUI the PS3 is still sold at a loss - but it will be interesting to see how quickly the loss-leading turns into profit on pure console-based sales.

    As a 360 and PS3 owner - the bulk of the software played on both currently are HD movies - with relatively few games purchased for either platform - though the PS3 is also used as a DVD player and for playing PS2 titles already purchased. (It also replays BBC HD recordings very nicely from DVD Rom)
     
  16. iankb

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    Maybe less of a loss, but I doubt that they're making a profit yet. The console market seems to rely on beating the competition on initial hardware price, because then you're tied into their overpriced software. However, the high price of the PS3 has probably allowed Microsoft to avoid cutting the price of the Xbox as much as they could have.

    The stupid thing is that they could sell a signifcantly cut-down (and quieter) version of the Xbox 360 for use as an extender, and actually make a profit on it. However, I suppose the current market for dedicated extenders is a bit too small.
     

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