Pioneer TiVo Owners Club

Discussion in 'DVD TiVo Units (Archive)' started by robomeister, Jun 29, 2006.

  1. robomeister

    robomeister DVD TiVo Expert

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    The Pioneer TiVo should be able to play DVD-DL discs. I haven't tried, but the spec for the DVD drive shows that they should be able to play them without problems.
     
  2. carlypi

    carlypi New Member

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    I've had this unit almost 5 years. Just recently it started having the following problems:
    1) When I try to burn DVD's, it is calculating what will fit on the DVD incorrectly. It says 100%, but then the burn fails, and it says the reason is there is insufficient space. I am putting on what I normally put on it.

    2) A few months ago it started restarting itself at least twice a day. The problem with that is that it has not been able to finish downloading/loading program information. The last time it successfully connected according to the tivo is 6/8/08. But just last week was when it was missing the tv guide and says "To Be Announced" on every channel.

    Is anyone else having these issues with their pioneer?
     
  3. Robmir

    Robmir Ret. Broadcast Eng

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    I will rephrase the problem for which I asked for help a couple of days before:

    Because I live outside the US have to source my programming from a c-band Dish.

    My Pioneer 810 download the guide through my high speed internet access and worked flawlessly for several years.

    Once in a while I like to download programs of special interest like the C-net etc.

    Since a couple of weeks ago I am unable to download anything besides the programming guide because once I go to any of the swivel, music, blogs etc. download menu y goes right away to a menu which says I should be connected to a internet access which of course I am, my account be active, which I am because I have the TIVO Plus suscription and when loggin in my account I should not have the opt-out chosen which of course I don't.

    It's possible that the TIVO server has changed their download policy's and now when it detects my IP address it knows right away I am located outside the US territories and blocks any download besides the guide itself ?

    Any sugestions since I am not doing any harm if I like to watch Dvorak's comments on the computer world or what's new in the C-Net electronic world, etc. ?

    Help appreciated
     
  4. Oct 5, 2008 #304 of 380
    zubee

    zubee New Member

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    Yes! I assume that you can pause, rewind, etc. live TV with the basic service. 3 days vs 2 weeks programming may not be a big deal. What else would I need the tivo plus service for?
     
  5. Oct 5, 2008 #305 of 380
    Robmir

    Robmir Ret. Broadcast Eng

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    May be for you, but I like the other goodies :)
     
  6. rworcester

    rworcester New Member

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    I'm getting poor quality DVDs when I transfer the program from my Pioneer 810 to the TiVo Deskstop, then burn using Roxio. DVDs are great coming from the new S3-HD Tivo and they look good if I use the DVD burner on the Pioneer810. The image has squiggely lines on any line that is verticle. What could cause this? Any suggestions?
     
  7. danylati

    danylati New Member

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    i have the same problem, i think tivo check the ip now
     
  8. GBean

    GBean New Member

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    I just got a DVR-810h and want to upgrade the drive to 500GB.
    Do I still need the 57h image, or does the unlock feature in the new mfstools cd get around that?

    Can someone PLEASE PM with the location of a 57h image? I havent gotten a response from my PM's to the known sources!





    (Just one post? really? i thought I was here before!)
     
  9. robomeister

    robomeister DVD TiVo Expert

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    You shouldn't need a 57H image. Use WinMFS to copy your image from your 80GB to the 500GB, then use the SuperSize option. That is supposed to remove the 80GB limit from your expanded drive.

    Give it a try. I have one I need to update myself, so I'll report back if it doesn't work.

    Good luck,
    robomeister
     
  10. sjordan93436

    sjordan93436 New Member

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    I tried to burn a 100% disk. I tried 4 x dvd-r. 4 x dvd-rw

    I burn a more than a few coasters.

    Weaknees says 199 to repair or 329 to replace burner. supposedly, repairs do more of it. I like it but is there another repair option?

    Iis in the bedroom and does not get much work. It was really cool when my daughter was in the Peace Corps. 50 cents now less DVD and 4 or 8 hours of home tv. The other volunteers were jealous. Just mail and forget. It was cool, but now ....
     
  11. Feb 3, 2009 #311 of 380
    robomeister

    robomeister DVD TiVo Expert

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    The Pioneer TiVos should be able to burn 4x DVD-Rs, but it will not burn 4x DVD-RWs. You need to use either 1x or 2x DVD-RWs. I've done alot of searching for these discs and was able to find them at Walmart in 15 disc spindles and Frye's in 25 disc spindles.

    If you try to use 4x DVD-RWs, you should get the error you described.

    I've successfully used 16x DVD-Rs.

    Have you tried rebooting the TiVo after you get the error and trying again? Have you tried different branded media? Sometimes a change resets something in the TiVo and it start working again.

    Another technique I use to get a successful burn is to burn a DVD-RW disc. That also resets the TiVo to burn DVD-Rs successfully.

    Sometimes it turns out to be a badly recorded program. I've make several coasters, even with DVD-RWs, and it turned out that one program was just bad and didn't want to be burned to a disc. Go figure.

    If you are technical and like to work with computers, you could replace the DVD writer in the Pioneer TiVo. However, you'll need to win an ebay auction of a Pioneer TiVo, and scavenge the DVD writer from it. I have tried to replace the burner with generic Pioneer burners, but with NO success at all. The only way to replace the burner is to cannibalize another Pioneer or order the drive from weaknees.

    Good luck,
    robomeister
     
  12. Feb 8, 2009 #312 of 380
    sjordan93436

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    I could not find 1 or 2 x dvd-rw's. I tried 4 x dvd rw.

    I found one source of 4 x dvd-r. No luck. I think I tried 4 brands of faster media.

    I did the reboot after a long wait. Other programs would record IF the disk was not full. I made coasters when I tried to burn a full disk.

    It is such a nice program.

    Next step. Go to Wal Mart in search of the 1 to 2 x dvd-r media. Try the compressed air.

    The last alternative is the $200 + repair.
     
  13. treacherous

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    What 500GB drive are you guys using with the your 810's? Is that the largest drive that can be placed in this model?

    Thanks!
     
  14. robomeister

    robomeister DVD TiVo Expert

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    I have one of my Pioneers with a 750GB drive in it. That is the largest IDE/PATA drive available. Pretty much any IDE/PATA drive will work in any Series 2 TiVo. Another one of my Pioneers has a 500GB drive, a Western Digital. Not sure of the model.

    I've been experimenting with using SATA to PATA converters and SATA drives in my Pioneers. I'm looking for an upgrade path to a 1TB drive. I'll let you know what I find out.

    robomeister
     
  15. Mar 5, 2009 #315 of 380
    wtherrell

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    Robomeister--I am about to upgrade my 57h to 500GB. I'm wondering about using WinMFS and saw your post about disconnecting the C: drive but I think that was using the MFSlive command line based program booting from CD. I have an old Dell that has WinXP and two separate PATA chains. Couldn't I just put in the drives connected to the extra ribbon cable (C: drive is on the other chain) and then run WinMFS almost just like I did my THD with the SATA connections? I have seen it emphasized so much to disconnect the windows drive that I am reluctant to proceed with this but can't think of any reason it would not work. Any thoughts?
     
  16. Mar 5, 2009 #316 of 380
    robomeister

    robomeister DVD TiVo Expert

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    wtherrell,

    If you use WinMFS on a Windows XP machine with Service Pack 2 or 3 (SP2, SP3), you will be ok. The problem was with Windows XP recognizing new hard drives connected to the computer and automatically writing a signature onto the drive. When the signature was written to the drive, it destroyed the TiVo boot partition, rendering the drive non-functional. The drives could be fixed, but you needed the right tools. This happened with Windows XP before SP2. If your old Dell doesn't have SP2 or SP3, let it update to SP3 and you should be ok.

    :thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown:Whatever you do, do NOT go into Control Panel -> Administrator Tools -> Computer Management -> Disk Management with the TiVo drives attached. This will do the bad signature write to any new drive Windows detects. This would be bad.

    Before I invested in some USB to PATA/SATA connectors, I used to open up my machine and plug the drive directly into the PATA cable. I've used the Weaknees Boot CD, the MFSLive Boot CD and WinMFS, all with great success. I like WinMFS because it is much easier to use than the command line boot CDs, for straight upgrades from the original working drive to a new larger drive. If I have to do anything fancy, like dd_rescue, then I use the MFSLive Boot CD. The USB to PATA/SATA connectors are slower than directly connecting to the PATA chain, but it's less hassle, at least for me. :up:

    So to answer your question, no, you do not need to remove the C: drive in order to use the MFSLive Boot CD. If you are going to use WinMFS, then you actually need to have the C: drive in the machine. :D Just make sure it has SP2 or higher before you attach any drives to the PATA cable.

    Hope that helps,
    robomeister
     
  17. Mar 5, 2009 #317 of 380
    wtherrell

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    Quote from Robomeister: <<So to answer your question, no, you do not need to remove the C: drive in order to use the MFSLive Boot CD. If you are going to use WinMFS, then you actually need to have the C: drive in the machine. Just make sure it has SP2 or higher before you attach any drives to the PATA cable.>>

    Thanks, Robomeister. You da man!!
    I'll get started on it today. Probably finish up Saturday morning.
    (No, it doesn't take that long but I'm recording the golf round this afternoon and am tied up tomorrow, too. )
     
  18. Mar 6, 2009 #318 of 380
    treacherous

    treacherous New Member

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    I did a 500GB upgrade a few days ago. I used my XP SP3 box and utilized WinMFS-MFSCopy to copy over a few programs as well. I was trying to do this via a USB SATA/PATA adapter but for some reason it wouldn't see my original 80GB source drive. Not a big deal I cracked the case and utilized PATA channel that had CD-ROM drive on it. It's a lot fast to transfer programs this way anyway.
     
  19. Mar 9, 2009 #319 of 380
    DennisTheMenace7

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    Just to let everyone know that "810HD Does Not Support The Playing of DVD-DL."
     
  20. Mar 9, 2009 #320 of 380
    wtherrell

    wtherrell Active Member

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    Well, everything went just fine. The old Dell xps 450 system came through just fine. I disconnected the DVD player and the CD burner to get the IDE Pata chain. Loaded WinMFS via USB thumbdrive. So thanks to the help from you guys and from spike over at MFSlive.org my 57h that used to show "Variable, up to 137 hours" now shows "Variable, up to 670 hours." Looks like all the recordings were copied perfectly. The drive was a WD WD5000JBRTL Caviar Blue SE that I got from J&R Music through Amazon for $80.00. It's a 7,200 rpm drive and is whisper quiet. It's quieter than the 120GB Maxtor that was original in the 57h---and it was pretty quiet already.
     

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