Perry Mason (HBO) season thread **spoilers**

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  1. Jul 20, 2020 #61 of 202
    madscientist

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    I doubt that was the plan ;). He can't very well out Perry after he's the one that helped him cheat.

    I actually LOLd when I figured out they were going to have Perry Mason cheat his way past the bar. Awesome!
     
  2. Jul 21, 2020 #62 of 202
    mr.unnatural

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    This is definitely not the Perry Mason that I grew up with. I wonder if the series finale will end in a courtroom confession? I'm starting to think that the writers stop by the medical dispensary each day on the way to work so they're in the right frame of mind to come up with this stuff.
     
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    Considering that Perry Mason's legacy was as an attorney, this just seemed WAY too contrived. It felt like they were trying to figure out how to make the transition on the fly. There was no inkling he even considered becoming a lawyer. And then when he's pushed to do it, it all happens in 10 minutes (of TV time). This should have been more gradual, with thoughts by him of considering doing it. But again, I didn't write this and I can't always have what I WANT on a TV show. Really, I'm enjoying the show and it's my only complaint about it, but I guess in context it's a pretty big one.
     
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    I liked the transition from PI to lawyer. Perry looked to EB as a mentor, no good lawyer would take the case, the Public Defender was in the AG’s pocket, and while we can of course question his methods, looking at what the PD and AG are doing justifies it (for the story)
    What I find gratuitous is Perry’s relationship with his neighbor and Della’s relationship with the Last Man Standing girl. They just pop-up in the story, and never go anywhere (yet).
     
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    Rob Helmerichs

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    I think his relationship with the neighbor gives them an easy entrée into his precarious living situation/clinging to the past. Making a break from that will be a major step forward for him.
     
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    Its all coming together, remember Ironside was shot on a chicken farm. :)
     
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    Cinematography...score...wow. This mini is majestic.
     
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    It definitely is beautifully shot. I love that style.
     
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    From the article...

    Although the project was initially envisioned as an eight-episode mini-series, HBO quietly re-categorized it last year after realizing there was significant opportunity for a continuing story.
     
  12. Jul 23, 2020 #72 of 202
    cheesesteak

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    I can readily believe that *this* Perry Mason used illegal means to get his law degree. He is a sleezebag on this show. Well, until now. I assume he'll be Abraham Lincoln's more honest brother from this point forward.

    I've always liked Tatiana Maslany but her character's major scenes seem extraneous to me.
     
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    Agreed. She was brilliant in Orphan Black, but I find myself FFing though her scenes.
     
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    I guess I'm the outlier. I find Sister Alice McKeegan an entrancing character. And her claim that baby Charlie will be resurrected will almost certainly come to play some part in this story. They've spent too much time on it.
     
  15. Jul 23, 2020 #75 of 202
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    That's the hope. That at some point it will come together. Right now it feels very disjointed. During the 1930s there were a lot of people who looked toward these type of "fake" preachers for hope and faith. So it's not really a reach that the victim of a child abduction would look toward someone like Alice for hope and comfort. There just needs a tie in to the story.
     
  16. Jul 23, 2020 #76 of 202
    cheesesteak

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    Was the disabled guy a plant? I thought so but her invocations for him that he didn't need the wheelchair seemed to only be heard by him. I still think he could always stand up and walk a little bit. He may have been a plant but I'm not sure he was in on the plan. Sister Alice's mother didn't seem pleased at all during that scene.
     
  17. Jul 23, 2020 #77 of 202
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    I don't think it's clear, but unless they are going with "magic", I'd say it has to be a plant. That was also a big part of these types of evangelical shows in those days.
     
  18. Jul 23, 2020 #78 of 202
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    I don't think he was a plant. I also don't think he was able to walk..she basically bullied him into standing up, and he could barely manage that.

    It wouldn't surprise me, though, if that were always her thing when she "healed" people...pick somebody who's not completely crippled, and talk them into standing up. Let the audience think it's a miracle, when really it's just somebody giving it everything they have to do what little they can already do.
     
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  19. Jul 24, 2020 #79 of 202
    madscientist

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    My take on it is that Mother handles all the setup on her own, and Sister Alice really believes that she can heal people. Whether Mother does a complete fake, or just finds people who could manage a few steps, isn't clear. Mother wasn't happy because the more popular Sister Alice gets, the more dangerous it is for them: they will get blackmailed etc. if the scam is discovered. But I suspect Sister Alice doesn't really understand that.
     
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  20. Jul 28, 2020 #80 of 202
    astrohip

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    Excellent episode Sunday night. This show has become a top-notch HBO series. Started a bit quietly, but now each week is riveting.

    Sign of a really good actor: At first, I kept seeing Matthew Rhys as Phillip Jennings (The Americans). Now he's Perry Mason.
     
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