Penny Dreadful: City of Angels - Season One thread *spoilers*

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  1. PJO1966

    PJO1966 Hi. What is this?

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    I just interpreted that as "stirring the pot". If her job is to cause mayhem, that's one way to do it.
     
  2. PJO1966

    PJO1966 Hi. What is this?

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    Here you go...

    Aimee Semple McPherson - Wikipedia
     
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  3. Rob Helmerichs

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    Except she seems to be sincere in her disapproval...e.g. in this week's episode, when she had very different looks on her face when the boss was and wasn't looking at her. She was egging him on, but clearly found it distasteful.
     
  4. photoshopgrl

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    I think the mobster should have done it. It's much more in his wheel house than Detective Lewis. I can see Lewis doing it if he felt there were no alternatives, maybe if the mob dude wasn't with them or if the nazis were getting him back as you say, but this was a straight up execution and far outside what I found to be in character for him.

    I was sad about Molly but more sad for Tiago than just sad about her character dying. Then I was angry we weren't even given a proper viewing of him being told or reacting to it. Some montage with music in the background? After all that with the two of them this season? Felt cheated. Especially by the end when he's laughing and smiling with his family as if he has already forgotten her.

    Those two things aside, I did like the season and the finale overall. It's a bit confusing but in a way that just makes me want to watch again and hope the things I don't fully understand are either made more clear on another view or have been confusing on purpose by the showrunners. Kind of sucked that Fly Rico got murdered but not surprising when he refused Rio's call to war. Why is Matteo so eager to be evil?? Is she putting a spell on him like Elsa has to Peter or is he just a bitter kid that likes the power?? It was odd that he once again says with what seemed to be finality "goodbye brother" and then both are happy and smiling together in the graveyard at the end. This family is weird for sure.
     
  5. gossamer88

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    Weird family for sure. Most of us latinos are LOL! But Matteo, IMO, simply has anger issues. Something he had even displayed before he met Pachuco Magda. I have to do a rewatch as I do not remember the ending. But agree Lewis should not have been the one. Shoulda been Benny Berman. Who IMO was not used enough. Brad Garrett was great in this.
     
  6. ej42137

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    It made perfect sense to me that Lewis wouldn't shirk the responsibility of doing what he felt had to be done.
     
  7. Tony_T

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    ...but makes no sense that Brian was killed.
     
  8. ej42137

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    Absolutely none. From our future viewpoint we see them as greater threats because we live under them, but neither rockets nor the atomic bomb made a significant difference to the outcome of WWII, except for saving a lot of Japanese and American lives by avoiding an invasion and a Soviet postwar partition of Japan.

    Now if Brian were a code breaker or microwave physicist Lewis might have had some justification.
     
  9. Tony_T

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    The war in Europe was not won when the Manhattan Project commenced, and Berlin was also feared to be developing their own atomic bomb.

    Good thing Lewis never ran into Oppenheimer when he was in Berkeley:)
     
  10. Rob Helmerichs

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    Except here, you're the one using the advantage of hindsight. From the perspective of the 1930s, I suspect a bomb capable of destroying cities from hundreds of miles away would be a lot more terrifying than the ability to write good codes.
     
  11. Tony_T

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    It would be foolish for Lewis to think that Brian was the only physicist with the idea, and since Brian was on his way out of reach from the Nazi’s, maybe we should keep Brian alive on our side?

    And it was at that point, just an idea. And Lewis killed someone for what they were thinking.

    Poor writing.

    Now, if that Nazi that was following them had captured Brian, and then Lewis shot Brian, well, that would be good writing ;)
     
  12. ej42137

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    Yes. With the advantage of hindsight, which everyone viewing this teleplay has, Lewis' action was completely futile. Germany is going to be defeated without it, they never got close to developing the bomb, and their rocket program was ineffective. And ICBMs and H-bombs were developed without Brian, and they were inevitable.

    I don't think Lewis did the wrong thing. I think it just doesn't work out very well. "City of Angeles" is a tragedy, after all.
     

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