Pan Am, "Pilot", OAD 9/25/2011

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  1. Sep 26, 2011 #1 of 105
    kaszeta

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    Well, that was a mixed bag to me. Here's my random comments:

    1. 1960s nostalgia is all in vogue now, and this did do a rather good job of reliving the golden age of aviation. It's no Mad Men, but it's not too bad.

    2. Did anyone else think that the CGI graphics were rather, umm, crappy? Heck, I've seen better special effects from open source flight simulators...

    3. I'll have to go into "suspension of disbelief" mode if I'm going to keep watching this, since they don't get a lot of the aviation details right... But hey, this is an ABC drama, not a documentary.

    This has some promise, I'll stay watching for a bit.
     
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    I had to grit my teeth at "with you" on the check-in.

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    atrac

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    I had high hopes for this, and was let down. I found it really corny and cliched. :(

    I actually thought some of the effects were pretty good. Others, not so much.

    I'm going to give it a few more episodes but with all the shows to watch, it's already on my chopping block.
     
  4. Sep 26, 2011 #4 of 105
    Waldorf

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    After SMG's "Ringer", this was some super crazy advanced Lucasfilm Industrial Light & Magic wizardry. ;)
     
  5. Sep 26, 2011 #5 of 105
    Polcamilla

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    We very much enjoyed the first 17 minutes but the TiVo apparently choked and failed to record the rest. :(
     
  6. Sep 26, 2011 #6 of 105
    ellinj

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    Overall I was kind of "meh" on the show. However, there was a lot of exposition going on in the first episode. The CIA angle adds some interesting options for story telling in the future. I will keep watching for now.
     
  7. Sep 26, 2011 #7 of 105
    madscientist

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    I would like to have checked this out but there're too many other things at that timeslot. Oh well.
     
  8. Sep 26, 2011 #8 of 105
    Alfer

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    Saw the extended ad's for this while watching Desperate Housewives(yes we still watch :)) and both my wife and I said the same thing..."That show ill never make it".

    I predict it gets canned after a few episodes.
     
  9. Sep 26, 2011 #9 of 105
    jsmeeker

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    I'm so so on it too. But it's a pilot, so I will give it a chance to develop. Is this show really a "cloak and dagger" show? Is that the focus?

    Maybe there will be less CGI in later episodes. But how else are you really going to show 1960 vintage aircraft (707) on a regular basis? Flying real ones gets crazy expensive.
     
  10. Sep 26, 2011 #10 of 105
    vertigo235

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    CGI was pretty weak, but I'm not expecting much from TV show budget.
     
  11. Sep 26, 2011 #11 of 105
    kaszeta

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    Oh, I'm expecting CGI. But this wasn't particularly good CGI. But vertigo235 is probably right, this may have been the best they could do for their budget.

    At least whoever did the aircraft model did a little research. I haven't seen a commercial flight flying with a multi-tube sound suppressor (notice that the engines have a bunch of tubes coming out of the back of them, unlike today's engines) on the engines in quite a long time.

    You're talking to someone who has actually rented C-130s and 737s. Actually, it's not *that* bad[1]. :) Harder would probably be finding someone with a suitably-close 707 that was willing to let you repaint it....

    [1] The C-130 was $9000/hr. The 737 was $27k for a 6 hour charter. The C-130 was a better deal, since the pilots were crazy and would do just about anything you asked (high-G turns, induced dutch rolls, flat turns, ....)
     
  12. Sep 26, 2011 #12 of 105
    Cainebj

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    I actually liked it.

    Great final image of the 4 girls walking.
     
  13. Sep 26, 2011 #13 of 105
    jsmeeker

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    The biggest issue with the CGI was that the planes were just too shiny. Like glossy plastic.
     
  14. Sep 26, 2011 #14 of 105
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    Well, it was supposed to be brand new.
     
  15. Sep 26, 2011 #15 of 105
    jsmeeker

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    even brand new, I don't think the paint is that glossy/shiy.
     
  16. Sep 26, 2011 #16 of 105
    ellinj

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    Are we supposed to believe that Bridget was on some sort of clandestine meeting in Cuba when she was late returning to the plane?
     
  17. Sep 26, 2011 #17 of 105
    kaszeta

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    I believe so.
     
  18. Sep 26, 2011 #18 of 105
    vertigo235

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    Thanks! I did notice that and was wondering about it, I looked up some photos of 707s and didn't see any that looked like that.
     
  19. Sep 26, 2011 #19 of 105
    kaszeta

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    Here's a photo from Air and Space magazine showing a 707 JT3C engine from that era (from some sort of test aircraft, since a much, much more modern high-bypass turbofan is mounted on another pylon):

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    Another fun one: The (now gone) JFK/Idlewild Pan Am terminal did originally have open-air jetways:

    [​IMG]
     
  20. Sep 26, 2011 #20 of 105
    WhiskeyTango

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    Here's an article with the reaction of two former Pan Am flight attendants about the accuracy of the show. Apparantly the show is pretty darn accurate, including the rumors of CIA involvement.
     

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