Ozark (Netflix) Series Thread (Spoilers OK)

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    mooseAndSquirrel

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    I enjoyed S3 so much I went back and started S1 and am now into S2. I kind of wish I had binged these before S3, because I had forgotten a lot. The Ruth/Marty relationship arc is really fascinating. This has definitely earned a place as one of my top 5 shows.
     
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    It was a carryover from s2 when Wendy mentioned that, as a teenager, she would break into random homes and do similar stuff. She was just acting out on her past.
     
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    wedgecon

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    She just puts blue food coloring into the milk, like she did when she was a kid breaking into people homes.
     
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    My thoughts now that I'm finally done (SPOILERS OBVIOUSLY)



    *The guy who plays Ben gets all the awards from now on. I have a bipolar sister and MAN did he nail the ups and downs of that illness. He was phenomenal on"Banshee" and thought he was the highlight of the season here. I will say - the way they ended episode 9, I thought for sure it was setting up some big showdown in the finale where Wendy realizes she made a mistake and the Byrde's would now find some way to get him back... But of course within the first 30 seconds of Ep10, that turned out to be false. After the roller coaster that was Episode 9, the finale actually fell flat to me a bit. I guess that's more of a testament to the episodes that preceded it. I felt the whole thing with Ben built up all season and then ended before it was truly time.

    *I don't buy for a SECOND that Frank Sr. would get into business with the loon who shot his son's **** off. Especially not after one conversation. He was ready to kill Ruth just for ***** slapping his son... No way he agrees to Darlene's terms. But oh well. Obviously they're just setting up a massive turf war for season four with everyone vs. the Byrdes... but still. no way. Maybe if she broke his arm or something. But she shot his **** off.

    *I paused the TV to take a picture of Wyatt's face when Darlene tells him about Jacob and I use that as a meme whenever a "That moment you realize...." is appropriate... "That moment you realize your new wifey assassinated the dude she loved for forty years".

    *I may need to go back and watch S2 but I wasn't understanding Ruth's indignation about the Byrde's killing her father... If I remember right, didn't she sign off on that from the beginning? A big part of her turning on them hinges on her desire for revenge for that, but wasn't she a facilitator? Can't fully remember. She also killed her uncles on her own without anyone forcing her too. I understand that now she's mad about Ben, and was mad that they Bryde's wouldn't kill Frank Jr. But the thing with her dad is the driving force behind her splitting from them, and it feels strange. While we're on the subject, I love a well-places F-word as much as anyone, but the actress relies on it waaaaay too much. She could cut out about 2/3 of it and still acheive the "trailer park redneck cliche" she's going for. As it is, it just takes me out of the scene. And I'm a fan of cursing! LOL

    *I kind of expected more bloodshed in the finale. Several people I know who watched it before me said it was UNBELIEVABLE so I expected something bigger. Helen getting capped was certainly a shock moment but anyone who ever watches TV knows something is always coming in the last 30 seconds of a season finale... so it's not like it was THAT shocking. I would have been more shocked if Jonah actually blew her away which is where I thought that earlier scene was going. Then when he went home defeated and sat down with the shotgun, I thought he was gonna take himself out (which also would have been a true shock). When everyone safely arrived at Navarro's, it was the end of the episode so you knew to expect something. Given the prominence of the war with the other cartel all season, I thought maybe the season would end by showing a **** ton of guys descending on the compound ready for war... I get the point of the final minute (the Byrde's are not only now FULLY entrenched with Navarro, but they realize he's a ruthless psychopath from which they'll never escape")...

    *Sue stepping out of the mcclaren is one of the funniest things I've seen in a long time. Of all the people I expected to come out of that car, she wasn't even on the list. Sue will be missed more than anyone. VERY close runner up moment is when the competing casino guy's wife trips and he watches her falls to her death, then just backs away and leaves. For a show as dark as this, the fact that it could make me actually crack up is pretty telling.

    *I can't remember - does Sam Dermody know the Byrde's are scum bags? Their personas to the town are upstanding business people, so I found it odd that they roped him in to being one of their players in what is clearly a shady operation. Doesn't that expose them to him as being shady? Or does he already know? Can't remember.

    *I don't fully understand Marty's plan to get agent Miller to work for the cartel. There are sometimes I was only half paying attention and I think that's the subplot I lost track of the most. She's obviously the most virtuous and driven agent he's dealt with - what in their actions has him thinking he can get her to betray everything she believes in (the core of who she is) and start working for a drug lord? Did I miss something? Is he just being THAT arrogant?


    Love this show... Hopefully they can start making season four soon, though who knows. It took 18 months for us to get season 3 but I think that's because Jason Bateman had to make 12 other movies AND an entire other TV show... maybe this time everyone's schedule will be a lot more open and they can get it done faster. Maybe??
     
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    Just finished season 3, best so far. There was some fine acting by all involved, as usual, but this season especially Pelphrey as Ben (sorry to see that character go) and Garner. The scene when Ben confronts Helen and spills the beans to the daughter was series television at its finest. As was the confrontation between Ruth and Wendy in the season finale.

    I, too, figured by the end of the season Helen was going to get hers, since it had to be either her or the Byrdes and we know it ain't gonna be the Byrdes. I'll miss Helen, she was a great villain, ruthless and cold as ice.
     
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    Twice already, Marty provided some evidence on crooked people preying on the public, and Agent Miller refused both time. Then Marty bypassed her by going straight to the FBI, which did initiate the investigations. Agent Miller would be demoted back to office work, after finishing with Marty's casino, because she said "her integrity" prevented her from taking the evidence. Marty then created a huge jump in casino's income, triggering some mechanism where Agent Miller would stay on for longer.

    My guess is Marty would make Miller fall further out of favor with her FBI boss, and she would need to turn to Marty for help.
     
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    I rewatched Season 1 and Season 2, after finishing Season 3, and I have to say Season 3 was the best, but watching those earlier seasons helped refresh my memory and I enjoyed the show enough to watch again.

    It's also interesting to see how Jonah (Skylar Gaertner) has physically grown. When Season 4 is ready to start production, the actor will be a young man which will be a creative challenge possibly.

    I liked Season 3 a lot more than Season 2 and end of Season 1. My main peeves from the previous seasons:

    I didn't like the way they expended Rachel in Season 2 as a druggie, and didn't care for the FBI agent from Season 1 and 2. Almost one episode is a flashback of his backstory. (I hate those episodes) Also didn't like writing of how Mason/Grace story finished. Didn't seem realistic a young couple/family like theirs would have no extended family or friends, and Mason ends up helpless later would go crazy kidnapping Wendy.

    Interestingly, in Season 3 was there were no Wyatt and Charlotte interactions, while there were plenty in the earlier seasons and little mention of the other in Season 3.
     
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    I was sure Jonah and Erin were going to sleep together. That could have worked really well.
     
  9. mooseAndSquirrel

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    Rewatched Season 2 and nearly choked when Darlene declared, “I delivered that baby!”
     
  10. mooseAndSquirrel

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    Maybe now that Erin’s momma is gone, she’ll move in with the Byrdes.
     
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    Then she's practically his sister!
     
  12. mooseAndSquirrel

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    Or like cousin Maybe
     
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    And that will work, in the Ozarks...
     
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    She went back to live with with daddy in the windy city before momma was offed.
     
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    Yup, I fully expect Helen's ex-husband will be just another complications that the Byrds will have to take care of for S04.
     
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    I guess you haven't watched The Flash.

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  17. Anubys

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    That's not how I saw it. I thought he wanted to feed her good stuff that compromises her principles but make her rise in the bureau. This would corrupt her as she goes further and further away from her core ethos and relies on him for career advancement and the money and status it brings. She would then turn a blind eye to what he does and eventually even cover for him as she falls deeper and deeper.
     
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    That's what I thought, too.
     
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    That's probably Marty's idea when he handed her the first "good stuff". However, when she refused and not even looked at it, he had to shift his strategy. That's when he got Wendy to send the stuff to the Senator. And then they did it again with the 2nd clue... give it to Miller, she refuses, and then to the Senator, telling him she refused good info twice.

    Then we see Miller's boss berate her for not taking it, and then demote her back to office work, after Marty's casino warrant runs out.
     
  20. Anubys

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    agreed...and now she should have learned her lesson and will take what Marty gives her...and the corruption as I stated would begin! :D
     

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