OTA only Tivo on the way

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by dave13077, Aug 25, 2014.

  1. BriHiFi

    BriHiFi New Member

    Jan 16, 2013


    Excellent recommendation. I've owned two Romeo basics w/lifetime service and the TiVo stream since they became available at Best Buy. They even had a $50 off promotion. I also switched out the hard drives to 3 TB. I record all the NFL games available with my over the air service. That roughly translates to between 60 and 70 games including pre-and post season. I expect more with the addition of Thursday night football. All on one Romeo with plenty of room to spare. Price wasn't an option for me as I chose another Romeo over the Mini. I definitely agree with your closing statement. Thanks for your reply.
  2. ncbill

    ncbill Well-Known Member TCF Club

    Sep 1, 2007
    Western NC
    The new Roamio OTA is not for us, the long-time Tivo users.

    It's for those sick of paying $100+/month for cable TV and who still want a DVR, are likely familiar with the Tivo brand, but balk at paying $400 upfront for a ChannelMaster DVR (1TB model).
  3. bradleys

    bradleys It'll be fine....

    Oct 31, 2007
    Penny wise and pound foolish...
  4. Bigg

    Bigg Cord Cutter

    Oct 30, 2003
    Basic inability to do math.
  5. mattack

    mattack Well-Known Member

    Apr 9, 2001


    Hey, I admit I'm a "cable defender" somewhat (even though most of what I watch is from the OTA channels, and I of course now have 2 cable-only Tivos), but I think you're GREATLY exaggerating. (I think the amount that I get for a cable bill WAY outweighs what I get from a cell phone.. and I play on my cell phone all the time!)

    I see now, "Digital Starter TV" for $29.99/month per month for 12 months with 2 year agreement. Mentions up to $1.50/month fee added.. and goes to $49.99/month for the 2nd year of the 2 year agreement.

    Averaged over 2 years, that's WAY less than $50/month, even if you include taxes.. (With your own Tivo, you even get a very slight credit for your owned equipment.)
  6. slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

    Sep 19, 2006
    In the ATL
    No, they don't - I can point you to any number of posts over at AVS, frex, where people rail about paying Tivo $15 a month for what they say is just guide service.

    There's a significant number of folks that don't understand Tivo's business model, and it's Tivo's fault for not making it clear what the deal is.
  7. mr.unnatural

    mr.unnatural Well-Known Member

    Feb 2, 2006
    OK, not everyone understands what the Tivo fee is for. Then again, these are probably the ones that don't bother reading the fine print. ;)
  8. Bigg

    Bigg Cord Cutter

    Oct 30, 2003
    Basic cable is typically between $13/mo and $18/mo depending on the market. They would have to include a CableCard as well if you want one. And if you get internet from them, it ends up being almost free, since they charge $15/mo more for internet without cable...

    They also have the Basic cable/HBO package...
  9. Banker257

    Banker257 New Member

    Aug 4, 2014
    Excellent point! To take it one step further, what's to stop someone in a market that sells these buying them and selling them on EBay to markets they weren't designed to be in?
  10. rainwater

    rainwater Active Member

    Sep 21, 2004
    Nothing except it will be useless outside the US.
  11. eboydog

    eboydog Just TiVo'ing.....

    Mar 23, 2006
    Also, Bestbuy has the means to hold you to contract terms such as before Directv went to leased equipment and in the days that hacking Directv was possible, if you bought a Directv receiver you had xx many days to activate or otherwise there was a penalty charge.

    Tjye used that method for two purposes, one toe keep people from buying and re-selling and to prevent people from buying them to hack and not activate properly.
  12. tenthplanet

    tenthplanet Well-Known Member

    Mar 5, 2004
    Lifetime service 400,450 dollars upfront. Now do you know people who have a few hundred dollars lying around doing nothing. This is why people do things monthly vs. Lifetime when given the option. Lifetime makes economic sense but upfront money is needed.
  13. Alf Tanner

    Alf Tanner Tivo Dude

    Jan 18, 2014
    At least a...
    Until I read this thread I thought it was a good idea for my parents. Now not so much.
  14. HarperVision

    HarperVision TiVo's Italian Cuz!

    May 14, 2007
    I believe he was talking about selling into markets where best buy isn't selling them in the US, not outside the US. These units are initially only being sold in select markets by BB.
  15. series5orpremier

    series5orpremier Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2013
    Not everyone understands that patents only last for 20 years and even when they're in effect they don't provide the holder with immunity from market forces.
  16. shwru980r

    shwru980r Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2008
    I think I would just buy a used Tivo HD or a premiere with lifetime service instead.
  17. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

    Jan 31, 2002
    I would get a Roamio BAsic. Which will still give you four OTA tuners. Can be used with a Mini. And can have monthly or lifetime service.
  18. eboydog

    eboydog Just TiVo'ing.....

    Mar 23, 2006
    Yes, I agree as other than the initial cost being slightly higher, you get more esp after you figure in the higher monthly cost. Used Roamio basic's can be picked up for around $100, free if you take advantage of the latest offer that has the $20 service plan.
  19. qz3fwd

    qz3fwd Member

    Jul 6, 2007
    Many people live paycheck to paycheck (even in upper income brackets) and so the lower upfront cost even though there are higher ongoing subscription fees may be the only way for them to afford the luxury of a Tivo , which after all is a discretionary purchase. Otherwise how would they be able to support that inflated monthly mortgage payment on the house they are underwater on and which is much bigger than they really need????
  20. ncted

    ncted A leaf on the wind

    May 13, 2007
    Durham, NC
    Of the 7 People in my department at work, 4 people have no paid TV service aside from Netflix/Amazon/Hulu. I have a super-cheap Dish plan which is costing me ~$40/month. People are sick of paying a lot for TV content.


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