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    dave13077

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    replaytv

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    For only $49 and with 4 tuners, you could use this a time shift device and not pay for the service. I am wondering if it would support standard definition TVs for those still living in the dark ages.
     
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    Simple, Brilliant and Legal -- TiVo Launches Over-the-Air DVR

    With a Plethora of Popular TV Available Over the Air, TiVo Offering the $49.99 TiVo Roamio OTA

    SAN JOSE, CA -- (Marketwired) -- 08/25/14 -- TiVo Inc. (NASDAQ: TIVO), a leader in the advanced television entertainment market, today revealed the limited edition TiVo Roamio OTA DVR with an initial retail price of $49.99, for those who do not have cable or satellite service, yet still want a DVR.

    "Many top TV shows in America are available with a simple HD antenna," said TiVo CMO Ira Bahr. "TiVo is devoted to making the best possible cable TV user experience available through our operator partners and in retail, but we recognize some viewers opt not to receive the benefits a subscription with a cable provider offers. TiVo Roamio OTA makes sure that they too can get a best in class DVR experience through an antenna, including our world renowned interface

    TiVo Roamio OTA enables consumers to record up to four shows simultaneously, storing 75 high-definition hours of programming. The new antenna DVR and streaming device allows consumers to enjoy and record entertainment from their favorite local networks, where available, including ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, PBS and Univision over-the-air and popular internet video services such as Netflix, YouTube, and many others.

    TV lovers can expect the same great award-winning experience as the TiVo Roamio family of DVRs, including universal search, free mobile applications, browse and compatibility with TiVo Stream and TiVo Mini devices to extend the TV experience throughout the home and beyond. TiVo Roamio OTA does not require a cable card, providing consumers with a top-notch entertainment experience at a minimal price. For customers looking to access cable channels, TiVo offers the TiVo Roamio, TiVo Roamio Plus and TiVo Roamio Pro devices.

    TiVo Roamio OTA Features Include:

    -- Storage: 500 GB (75 HD hours)
    -- Tuners: 4 tuners
    -- Compatible with TiVo Stream: Stream live and recorded TV to smartphones and tablets
    -- Content navigation:
    -- Universal search across Over-the-Air and popular internet video services including Netflix and YouTube
    -- "What to Watch" provides a personalized dashboard with recommendations for what's on now, next and tonight
    -- Collections offers editorial collections based on current events or categories including new fall TV, Shark Week, Holiday, Academy Award winners, etc.
    -- Channel guide with filters to enable users to get to what they want as quickly as possible
    -- Free application for smartphones and tablets: manage your DVR with your phone or tablet through remote Season Pass(R) management, a recording scheduler that allows you to add or remove recordings and enhanced WishList(R) management
    -- Networking: Ethernet & WiFi networking

    Pricing & Availability
    TiVo Roamio OTA, tailored solely for the best over-the-air experience, will appear at select BestBuy stores. The limited product release will be offered in select markets for $49.99, with a $14.99 per month service and a one-year commitment. Product and service pricing subject to change. For more information please visit TiVo.com/Roamio-OTA.
     
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    TiVo'Brien

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    Doesn't support using TiVo Mini, though. :(
     
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    The Tivo page indicates it does. I think they (Engadget) meant to say no MOCA bridge included.
     
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    Looks as if with this pricing, you can't get the Product Lifetime, at least not for the first year.
     
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    The whole point of cutting the cord is to eliminate monthly fees. If they were to put the retail price at $100 and offer an OTA-only lifetime for $300 this just might become a hot cake.
     
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    Okay, sounding better, then. :)
     
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    series5orpremier

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    "Offered in select markets" = so as not to directly compete with TiVo cable partnerships.
     
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    Not true. Many many cord cutters supplement with Netflix/Hulu Plus/ect. It is to minimize fees, to be sure, but not necessarily eliminate. Especially for those who are tempted to utilize a DVR.
     
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    $15/month is not a fair price for an OTA only program guide... It's clearly subsidizing the hardware and is half the cost of what a basic cable subscription used to be. Adjusting the OTA pricing model to make any monthly fee no more than $10 would be the appropriate way to go.
     
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    dave13077

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    My guess is that it will only be available at the Best Buy Magnolia stores, hence limited markets.
     
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    The TiVo service has never been about the cost of the "Program Guide".

    You're paying for the TiVo service, whether it is for OTA, or Cable.
     
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    jrtroo

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    How would they make up the subsidy for the box itself if not charging enough in the monthly fees to cover the subsidy? That makes no sense.

    My advice, if you think it costs too much, don't buy it.
     
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    Which is really crazy, considering many of the smaller market Best Buy stores do NOT have Magnolia inside. There are plenty of folks in markets such as mine (Hickory, NC) that would consider this TiVo if BestBuy or even Walmart had a proper display explaining what it does and the benefits of it. I think a price point of $149, then $9.95 a month would be much easier to stomach for some folks.
     
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    BigJimOutlaw

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    Reading the Engadget comments underscores why you don't see OTA built into the higher-end, expensive Roamios. They get a subsidized $50 box and still whine like children that service and guide data isn't free.
     
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    dave13077

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    I am thinking this (continuous service fees) will be there focus going forward. The pencil pushers at Tivo would much rather see fee revenue every month instead of a one time payment (I know they spread the lifetime fee over a few years). Would not surprise me to see the lifetime option go away altogether at some point.
     
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    slowbiscuit

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    If you're happy with time-shifting only up to 30 mins., sure. You can't record anything without service so all you have are the live TV buffers.

    Good price though, and we know all the usual whiners will come out railing about service costing extra.
     
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    series5orpremier

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    Tivo service and the program guide are so directly correlated to be one and the same. If you want something other than a gradually eroding retail customer base you have to price according to the relative value the individual subscriber is receiving, not according to some elitist value placed on a trademark logo or what value Roamio Pro customers are receiving.

    It's "never been about" the program guide whether OTA or cable? Not true. I've seen reports of Tivo offering reduced monthly rates for OTA-only users.
     

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