Orville, Pilot 2017/09/10

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  1. LoadStar

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    Whether you *think* it is or not, it is not intended as a spoof or a parody of Star Trek. It is just a series "inspired by" Star Trek that also happens to use some light humor.

    (Calling it a parody would suggest the intent is to ridicule Star Trek, as "Galaxy Quest" did. Tthat doesn't seem to be their intent at all.)
     
  2. Rob Helmerichs

    Rob Helmerichs I am Groot! TCF Club

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    Exactly, and that's why I (still) think it's in more legal jeopardy than it would be had it been the spoof that a lot of people were expecting. It's not a parody of a Star Trek show; it's a Star Trek show in very flimsy disguise, specifically designed to look and feel like a Star Trek show.
     
  3. morac

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    I would call it more of an homage than a spoof. I don't think Orville is making fun of Star Trek.
     
  4. Saturn_V

    Saturn_V Now with flavor!

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    I thought the first two seasons of TNG were gawd-awful. "Spock's Brain", "Turnabout Intruder" and "Way to Eden" awful. I can't re-visit any of those episodes, even the one with the exploding head.

    Just thought it was interesting The Orville reminded you of a period when I thought Trek was at it's absolute worst.

    Western/cowboy films always share similarities in characters, setpieces or themes. (they wouldn't share the same genre if they didn't have commonalities) It doesn't mean those similarities are actionable.

    We used to have two shows about life on space stations that not only shared many similarities, but competed directly against each other.
     
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  5. Rob Helmerichs

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    But this isn't a show that simply shares a genre, or has some similarities. This is a show that is clearly and literally based on another show.

    I don't know how much legal jeopardy they're in. Just that they're in more jeopardy doing a copy of Star Trek than they would have been doing a parody (which is protected, and which this clearly isn't).
     
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  6. Peter000

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    Even though those episodes were/are awful, they actually had their moments and for me, anyway, are fun to revisit in a kitschy MST3K way.

    Yeah brother!
     
  7. hummingbird_206

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    Seth just did an AMA on reddit and I think he gave some interesting info about the show .
     
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  8. mlsnyc

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    Started out mostly about Seth botching the AMA. But finally got to where he talked about the show. Liked the last answer that there'd be no teleport/transport technology. They'd be using shuttles to bring people around. I think that's a good idea. No easy outs or contrived situations by being able or not able to beam someone in or out of a situation.
     
  9. pdhenry

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    You're joking, right? Seth has no idea what he's doing there. They started a second one that he doesn't seem to have found yet.
     
  10. hummingbird_206

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    :D
     
  11. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

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    The unfortunate result of that debacle is that in the second AMA, he was gunshy to actually answer any Orville questions, so there's basically no info about Orville in there.
     
  12. morac

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    He replied a lot in that one, you just have to sort by "q&a" instead of "new". None of the questions in the new one seems to be at all related to Orville though.
     
  13. hummingbird_206

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    In most AMA's, I just click on the username read the responses. I didn't realize when I posted the original link that Seth's posts were from different AMA's. :oops:
     
  14. madscientist

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    I noticed immediately that there was no transporter. To me that's one of the most fantastical/unrealistic technologies in all of Star Trek so I find it very interesting that they did away with it. I do wonder how it will change/constrain possible story lines; there were several episodes in Trek that just wouldn't have been possible without them. It seems like they still have holosuite-type technology, too...
     
  15. Mikeguy

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    I'm not convinced that "The Orville" is not parodaic--I'm not quite sure that they know at this point, either (as reviews tend to suggest).
     
  16. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

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    I think the transporter is one of the specific things from Star Trek that would be protected under copyright law. So a crew in a spaceship is acceptably broad and wouldn't be an infringement. But as soon as you start using specifics like a transporter or Vulcans or "set phasers to stun" or things like that, then you've crossed the line. I'm sure FOX's legal department is very up-to-speed on this stuff and is keeping a close eye on what is in the scripts and in the final versions, to make sure nothing actually crosses that line.
     
  17. JYoung

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    Perhaps they can call it a "Digital Conveyor".

    Back in the mid 90s, there was an ill fated pilot called The Osiris Chronicles about a ragtag crew aboard a starship trying to rebuild the Galactic Republic.

    Their "transporter" was called a "Multi-spatial Transverse" system which folded space to move people and materials from ship to surface.
    (Of course since Paramount made The Osiris Chronicles, that might have made them less lawsuit happy.)
     
  18. wmcbrine

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    Galaxy Quest was absolutely not meant to ridicule Trek. It's a loving tribute.
     
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  19. RGM1138

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    I agree.
     
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  20. TonyD79

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    Galaxy Quest the show within the movie was a tribute. The parody was of the fandom and the icon Star Trek became. The loving part was the pluck of the show won out in the "real world."
     

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