OnePass - how long before new streaming episodes are added?

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  1. Feb 13, 2015 #1 of 109
    kbmb

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    Anyone know how long before new episodes are added to a Streaming OnePass?

    Amazon released all the Bosch episodes today, yet the Tivo still doesn't show them as available.

    I hope it doesn't need a connection to Tivo to get the list updated (trying that now).

    -Kevin
     
  2. Feb 13, 2015 #2 of 109
    bradleys

    bradleys It'll be fine....

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    That is a great question, I would have thought it would show up immediately. That it doesn't is very disappointing. It should query the source as soon as you open the folder.

    A connection to TiVo should absolutely not be required. You might want to consider submitting a bug report to TiVo on that.

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    Thinking about this, the list would be populated one of two ways.

    1) A real time webservice that makes an on demand call to the appropriate streaming service
    2) A cached list of content updated periodically by TiVo similar to the TV Guide data
     
  3. Feb 13, 2015 #3 of 109
    Arcady

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    Philadelphia...
    I just added the same OnePass and expected a folder full of episodes. It only shows the pilot.
     
  4. Feb 13, 2015 #4 of 109
    bradleys

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    So, it will be very interesting to see how quickly it shows up. A few hours? 24 hours? Days?

    Do we know approximately what time the content was added to Amazon?
     
  5. Feb 13, 2015 #5 of 109
    kbmb

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    Just to update, I already had the OnePass setup for this, set to Streaming Only and Season 1. It was only showing the Pilot.

    When I went to check just now, I didn't have any of the new episodes listed. My last connection to Tivo was yesterday morning.

    I just forced a connection.....it was typical, downloaded some data and processed for about 10 minutes.....still no episodes showing.

    I'm forcing another connection now.

    -Kevin
     
  6. Feb 13, 2015 #6 of 109
    bradleys

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    I don't think that is going to help... (And this is just a guess)

    But I think TiVo is waiting for the content from Amazon. Either they haven't connected and supplemented their own feed (Likely) or Amazon hasn't included the series metadata into their API service (less likely)
     
  7. Feb 13, 2015 #7 of 109
    kbmb

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    Not sure the exact time.....Amazon had only said 2/13.

    What's weird is my Mom's Tivo is showing all the episodes. I emailed her and asked what time her Tivo connected and she said at 7:18am EST this morning.

    I just did a second connection - still nothing.
    I went into the Pilot to have it load the Amazon app - still nothing (in Tivo - but I can see the episodes in the Amazon app)

    -Kevin
     
  8. Feb 13, 2015 #8 of 109
    kbmb

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    If this is standard.....having to wait.....when House of Cards is released.....people are NOT going to be happy :D

    -Kevin
     
  9. Feb 13, 2015 #9 of 109
    Arcady

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    Philadelphia...
    I just pressed C to view "all episodes" and they all show up, but are grayed out except the pilot.

    They can all be played from within the Amazon app, including trailers and behind the scenes videos that don't show up in the My Shows folder.
     
  10. Feb 13, 2015 #10 of 109
    kbmb

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    Same here......grayed out and listed as unavailable.

    -Kevin
     
  11. Feb 13, 2015 #11 of 109
    bradleys

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    That is exactly what I was thinking
     
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    kbmb

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    UPDATE: I emailed my Mom to ask if she was seeing all the other episodes in Blue or Gray as unavailable. She was actually in the All list, so they are all gray and unavailable.

    -Kevin
     
  13. Feb 13, 2015 #13 of 109
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    Can you One Pass shows that are EXCLUSIVELY on streaming and do not exist on cable? if so, that's kind of awesome.
     
  14. Feb 13, 2015 #14 of 109
    ncted

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    I noticed that The Daily Show has very old data about what is available on Hulu. This aspect of the OnePass seems poorly implemented.
     
  15. Feb 13, 2015 #15 of 109
    kbmb

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    And you'd think.....with the amount of stuff on Tivo that doesn't work if you don't have a constant connection.....you'd think they would be able to push this data rather quickly.

    -Kevin
     
  16. Feb 13, 2015 #16 of 109
    bradleys

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    Yes, for streaming series.

    And you can also select and place streaming movies into a streaming folder.
     
  17. Feb 13, 2015 #17 of 109
    joewom

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    I know right then they will have to actually load the app first to get to the show. Damn what a inconvenience.
     
  18. Feb 13, 2015 #18 of 109
    bradleys

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    It is all going to be based on the data they get and how they get it. If the data is poor - such as your experience with Hulu, that probably has more to do with Hulu than TiVo.

    If it is late, that is another thing entirely. We don't know how exactly (or how often) they are getting the content meta data. And we don't know how the TiVo's are accessing that meta data.

    I guess the question would be; is a 24 hour refresh schedule acceptable? In most cases it probably wouldn't matter. In the case of some of the highly popular original series - like House of Cards it would make a big difference.
     
  19. Feb 13, 2015 #19 of 109
    bradleys

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    It is! :)

    If TiVo is going to try to create this integration they need to do it well. And latent show data is the kind of thing that will make people loose confidence in the service.
     
  20. Feb 13, 2015 #20 of 109
    joewom

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    Come on. I get that. However things don't always go as planned. This is software we are talking about. They just released it. Lets take apple. WiFi is nothing new to them but in their IOS 8 update it broke WiFi. Its a huge aspect of phones now days. I get pointing out it does not work as it should but you can't expect Tivo to get everything 100% right. No software company does. If they did there would be no such things as patches or updates. It would just be new features. People need to stop expecting unrealistic things.

    Also this could be amazon thing for all we know. Tivo does not control what and how amazon sends as far as information on shows.
     

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