OnePass and the loss of multiple SP for same show

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by csell, Feb 4, 2015.

  1. L David Matheny

    L David Matheny Active Member

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    I suspect you're right, although I don't know how you can be sure unless you're a beta tester. Even if an SDUI screen still says "Season Pass", it will probably be working from the same (one pass per show) tables used by the HDUI. And it wouldn't surprise me to see the SDUI disappear when a Premiere gets the 20.4.6 update.
     
  2. murgatroyd

    murgatroyd Don't stop believin'

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    So did they break the SPs on the Premiere already with 20.4.5, or is this thread about a single machine that has a glitch?

    Can't set up new season passes
     
  3. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Well-Known Member

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    While not limited to a "single machine", it is a completely different issue that also affected Roamios and was supposedly addressed by 20.4.6 but I still occasionally have had problems.

    There are actually multiple threads on the problem. Search "Blue spinning circle".
     
  4. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    I didn't realize this. I thought the option to edit the SP from the folder was new and that in previous versions you had to select an episode or "explore this show" and then modify the SP from there.

    Even so if they went back to the old SP model they'd still need to figure out some way to include streaming. Would streaming be tied to the folder? Or would it be tied to a specific SP? Or would you need another SP just for streaming?

    I think these are some of the design decisions that TiVo had to consider when doing this and why they landed where they did.
     
  5. Jed1

    Jed1 Well-Known Member

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    No. I was suggesting earlier today that according to one of the 20.4.6 release notes from Margret that the SD menu on the Premiere will retain the old Season Pass. Only the HD menu on the Premiere will update to the new One Pass.
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    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=10386574#post10386574

    If this holds true then those users that were recording some programs with multiple SPs could use a Premiere set to the SD menu to continue to do this while using another Premiere/Roamio with HD menu set to use 1P.
    The only thing is the Premiere using the SD menu system will not have access to streaming option but this would not be needed since the 1P boxes have this capability.

    I know some members are having a hard time believing this but why would Margret issue a bug fix for Season Pass, using the SD menu on the Premieres, if they were going to change the SD menu from SP to 1P.
     
  6. Arcady

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    Yes, because it isn't true.
     
  7. realityboy

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    I honestly don't know when it was added to the folder. I've never used it, and I just noticed it fairly recently. I could see how multiple OnePasses with streaming could be an issue. It seems like a simple fix to allow multiple OnePasses as long as only 1 includes streaming, but there has to be a more complicated underlying reason.
     
  8. wtherrell

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    Exactly my problem. My longstanding love of TiVo is turning to hate. Wish I could revert to the older software.
     
  9. slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

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    Interestingly enough my ToDo List now shows separate PGA Tour Golf recordings for the Honda Classic next weekend scheduled with my single ARWL (Golf Channel and NBC on both days). So they may have fixed something in the guide data that was preventing both of these new events from being recorded on the same day.
     
  10. WorldBandRadio

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    The absurd part is the fact that it would not be needed had TiVo not just removed the same feature, a feature that was very fundamental to the TiVo.
     
  11. slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

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    It's definitely not an absurd idea, it's just another filter for an ARWL that would largely let us workaround the 1P issues. IMO it would be useful even if you had the old SPs just because of bad guide data issues.
     
  12. WorldBandRadio

    WorldBandRadio Active Member

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    Yet they have removed a feature that requires one to have multiple TiVos in order to retain the functionality.
     
  13. RoyK

    RoyK New Member

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    Used the wl +1P workaround (wl new all channels kuid & 1P new and repeats USA) for SVU last night. As expected the new episode appeared in a wl folder and the1P folder. The episode is the newest in both folders and of course have the same time and date but the folders are separated in the date sorted listing with an episode of CSI Miami that is hours older than either listed after the wl but before the 1P!i
     
  14. csell

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    Here's a perfect and legit example of a wishlist for a specific channel. I want to create a wishlist for the actor "Tom Hanks" but I want to specify the channel HBO as I don't want it to record any movies with him in it on network TV and thus commercials. I just want his movies on HBO with no commercials. Seems legit and not absurd to me.
     
  15. Grakthis

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    Dirty Martini's are fine and who cares what you do with clear liquors?

    Your scotch preferences are objectively wrong, but harmless.

    But for God's sake man, stop drinking Crown. Even the worst KY bourbons are better.
     
  16. h2oskierc

    h2oskierc I'm a 2-Tuner

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    Ugh, cannot stand KY bourbons, or Jack Daniels. Crown Royal or Crown Royal Black all night long for me!

    I like a blended whiskey, something a little more smooth. Not a single barrel fan.
     
  17. bradleys

    bradleys It'll be fine....

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    I realize this may not be high brow, but some friends of mine and I absolutely killed a bottle of Honey Bourbon the other night! It was fantastic!

    My favorite bar has Macallan 12 and I have been drinking that a little lately - not too bad.
     
  18. h2oskierc

    h2oskierc I'm a 2-Tuner

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    Honey Bourbon? I'm intrigued, was the honey very noticeable?

    EDIT:
    Obligatory post about OnePass and how my TiVo got it last night and I am worried, even thought I don't use Multiple Season Passes to stay On Topic...
     
  19. murgatroyd

    murgatroyd Don't stop believin'

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    That's a better use case than simply trying to hack an ARWL to replace SP functionality. Thanks for posting it.
     
  20. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Well-Known Member

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    Isn't there already a Bourbon thread?
     

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