OnePass and the loss of multiple SP for same show

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  1. Arcady

    Arcady Stargate Fan

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    I know it for sure.
     
  2. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Well-Known Member

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    You are flat out wrong. The change to 1P is at a more fundamental level than the interface.
     
  3. Jed1

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    This is from Margret's release notes for the new update:
    Why would she mention "Season Pass in SD menus" if the update would eliminate them?

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=10386574#post10386574
     
  4. bradleys

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    It makes sense... The more you think about it the data model and services layer have been completely modified and there would be no way for the two UI to work independently.

    I suppose it surprises me that this wasn't the breaking point for disabling the SDUI all togerther.

    Now that would have pissed some people off! :)
     
  5. lpwcomp

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    Why? It's exactly the same concept as the difference in "My Shows" that exists today. Or the SPM. Or any of the displays that give you more information in the HD menus
     
  6. Jed1

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    Here is what I answered to Arcady.

    This is from Margret's release notes for the new update:
    Why would she mention "Season Pass in SD menus" if the update would eliminate them?

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=10386574#post10386574
     
  7. Keen

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    That's exactly when features are removed. Every feature in a piece of software incurs maintenance costs that are ongoing. When you change other elements of the software, you need to test to confirm that feature is still working properly. So rarely-used features are always going to be on the chopping block when it comes time to trim things.

    In this case, Tivo's making a massive change to the way Season Passes and My Shows works, and for some reason they decided to remove that feature as part of the work. Because so few people use it, this was something they could consider.
     
  8. lpwcomp

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    As I stated previously, it is my belief that they didn't remove the capability to create multiple SPs for a series and the record "Everything" option because "hardly anyone uses it", it was done to "encourage" people to utilize the streaming services to watch old or "missed" episodes.
     
  9. lpwcomp

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    In an attempt to keep my New Year's resolution of being less confrontational, I will no longer respond to anything Jed1 has to say on the subject of SP creation via the SD menus.

    At this point the only thing I have to say is that anyone who acquires a Premiere in the expectation that they will be able to create multiple SPs for a series after it is updated to 20.4.6 is a fool.
     
  10. Grakthis

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    Crown is ****, stop having bad taste in brown liquors, tia.
     
  11. Grakthis

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    Hold on, is this coming from the guy who repeatedly derailed discussions of workarounds to rant more about how he's so angry about this design choice? You're complaining that someone did the same thing, but with the opposite position?

    Holy **** pot, have you MET kettle?!?!?! You two...
     
  12. bradleys

    bradleys It'll be fine....

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    I also drink Glenfiddich 12 year old scotch and top shelf dirty Martini's with 3 olives! :)
     
  13. bradleys

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    I agree with you to a point...

    I don't think they are encouraging you to utilize streaming services over linear television. I think they are trying to place them on a level, consistent playing field. Make it so you don't have to care where the content lives.

    One very appreciated option is to exclude pay content from the listing.
     
  14. lpwcomp

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    By putting episodes available by streaming in the group with recordings, they have tilted the playing field in favor of streaming.

    Not to mention this statement in the FAQ:

     
  15. Dan203

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    It's not just the name and the scheduling though. It's a fundamental change to the UI. Every show has just one folder and just one set of options which can be edited via a menu item at the bottom of that folder. If they switched to "multipass" then that portion of the system would also need to be reverted. At that point they might as well just revert to SP and scrap the whole idea.
     
  16. lpwcomp

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    There has never been more than one "folder" per show.

    Edit: I realize that pushed episodes with correct metadata now (usually) go into same group as recorded or pulled episodes whereas before they didn't but that change went in before the latest release and is not really relevant to One Pass anyway.
     
  17. Keen

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    ...yeah, because that was a necessary step to equalize streaming with recordings. Recordings had much more attention paid to them pre-OnePass, but now they're roughly equivalent with streaming sources. Due to the nature of recordings, there will be many GUI features and elements that will make them have a larger role than streamed stuff, but Tivo just gave streaming sources a huge profile boost in their software. I'm very curious how things develop from here.
     
  18. RoyK

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    Multiple SPs used a single folder just fine for years. Adding streaming should not be that difficult a programming/Gui challange.
     
  19. realityboy

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    That was always the case. 1 folder per show with an option to modify a season pass in the folder. If multile SPs existed, the option showed "Season Pass options" and then you picked which SP you would like to modify-all from within the folder.
     
  20. aaronwt

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    Is 20.4.6 out for the Premiere? I've had mine unplugged since they had delayed it on the Premiere.
     

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