One pass?

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by dlmart2, Feb 16, 2015.

  1. ubergigglefritz

    ubergigglefritz New Member

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    Thanks for your response. The chat person I talked to at tivo.com said that there was always a folder even if I selected recordings only. I will try restarting...

    What about it not being channel specific? I am in between two cities, so I at least partially get two stations for most channels. One I get better than the other, so I always set my season passes up for the stronger station. I hope the OnePass doesn't start recording from the other one instead =P
     
  2. astrohip

    astrohip Well-Known Raconteur TCF Club

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    Two options:

    1) Make the OP channel specific.

    2) Eliminate the weaker channel from your channel list. Then the OP CAN'T record from it.
     
  3. bradleys

    bradleys It'll be fine....

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    I agree - if you have a duplicate channel that is weaker and you don't want to record from it... Simply remove it from your channel lineup.

    Note: You can still get to it by tuning directly using the numeric key pad, it just won't be in your guide.
     
  4. Tanquen

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    I don’t know what to tell you. I now have three empty folds at the top of the My Shows list. They are never really empty using the “C” to change the view in the folder its empty when set to view recordings or my episodes but the all episodes setting always has episodes you can stream or buy and the folder never goes away. It sucks. Why would anyone want this?
     
  5. ej42137

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    If you're dealing with recordings only, once you've deleted all the recordings there's nothing further that you can watch, so they hide the folder for recordings-only One Passes. But if you include streaming, then you can always go back and watch old episodes using the C button. So if the One Pass includes streaming, the group is retained even when empty because it's still useful if you want to go back and watch again.

    You personally don't like this behavior. I would suggest that once you've watched all available streaming episodes for a One Pass you change it to Recordings Only until new episodes are available. Or buy a Roku to watch streaming content.

    I suspect One Pass and the apps that support streaming will see some user interface changes in the next few releases.
     
  6. Tanquen

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    “If you're dealing with recordings only, once you've deleted all the recordings there's nothing further that you can watch, so they hide the folder for recordings-only One Passes.”

    Right, that is how one would think it should work but they are all set to recordings only. In fact they are getting stuck at the top after watching a recorded show. Shouldn’t they have been at the top all along? Did they test this stuff?

    “because it's still useful if you want to go back and watch again”

    No, I do not want a folder list of every single show I record to have to sift through because they all have streaming shows to buy that I’ve most likely already seen. This makes no sense to me other than someone at TiVo thinking this will be great everyone will pay to stream shows over and over because we keep every show they record as empty folders at the top with the streaming options by default. ???

    “I would suggest that once you've watched all available streaming episodes for a One Pass you change it to Recordings Only until new episodes are available.”

    What?

    Me personally? Yes, everyone wants a bunch of empty folders at the top of the list. They even show 12/31 as the date so they have streamable shows from the future? Nice of them to force the empty folders by default and give the streamable shows a fake date of the end of the year so they are always on top. Why would anyone want this?
     
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  7. Bongo

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    I don't see any empty folders. These are set to recording only?
     
  8. Tanquen

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    Me? Yes, yes they are set to that.

    "they are all set to recordings only"
     
  9. HerronScott

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    And they've always been set to recordings only from the beginning? And you've rebooted?

    Scott
     
  10. Tanquen

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    I did not know you needed to reboot. If you make a change you need to reboot your TiVo or is it that the new One Pass sometimes need a reboot?

    I'll try a reboot.
     
  11. Tivo II Jack

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    I have been following this string since it began and it is now reassuring me about one thing. Ever since this ridiculous new One Pass arrived, I have ALWAYS selected Recordings Only and I have never seen these empty folders. I thought my rejection of streaming only meant I was behind the times but it seems I was not alone.

    I give credit for that for my disastrous decision to switch from TWC to FiOS when it became available to me in Brooklyn, NY last October. Because FiOS is so lacking, I have had to stay subscribed to both FiOS and TWC (very basic for $60 per month) since then. I will soon drop FiOS and return to TWC which I only despise a bit less than FiOS.

    The clearest thing in the instructions from ANYWHERE in Verizon Support is this: When you here it making a ringing sound, pick it up and say, "Hello?' and whomever is calling you will begin talking to you.

    They know plenty about that, but what they know about computers and DVR's could fill a page the size of a postage stamp. In 27 years as a TWC subscriber, the only time they were EVER in my home was the day they installed the coaxial cable.

    Between 10/8/14 when Verizon installed FiOS, and mid-November when I just gave up, I have had at least two dozen FiOS "geniuses" in my home (sometimes for several hours and making numerous calls to their supervisors) and not one of them have EVER been able to resolve a single problem.

    I own a Co-Op in an 84 unit building in Brooklyn and I have now realized that the people who are the most satisfied with FiOS are those who are the most computer illiterate. Turn on the TV and get a good picture and they are 100% satisfied. As computer literacy increases, satisfaction with FiOS decreases RAPIDLY.
     
  12. ej42137

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    Yes, I meant you personally. I wonder if your seeing a bug of some kind, because my TiVo isn't working like yours. My groups don't stay at the top of the list and now that I've got them set up the way I want they go away when there's nothing left to watch and come back when a new episode becomes available to stream.

    Also, is there some reason you don't like to use the normal quoting mechanism?
     
  13. Tanquen

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    "Yes, I meant you personally. I wonder if your seeing a bug of some kind, because my TiVo isn't working like yours."
    You had said.
    "You personally don't like this behavior."
    Like there are others that would like it.

    Someone said to try a reboot and that seems to have worked for now but you should not need to reboot the TiVo. Well, actually they both locked up when watching a show from one on the other so I had to reboot them.

    And now randomly some of the folders when selected and with a show to watch have no highlight bar and you can’t select or watch a show without going back out and then back in. Never seen that before. Seems like it's just the WishList shows.

    "Also, is there some reason you don't like to use the normal quoting mechanism?"
    No. I just do it. Every single time.
     
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  14. HerronScott

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    This has been mentioned in several of the threads on OnePass as being needed if you remove the streaming option to get rid of the empty folder. Seems to be a bug for right now which hopefully they'll fix at some point.

    Scott
     
  15. mattack

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    What do you mean?

    If you change your *defaults* to recordings only, then new OnePasses won't show streaming videos.. is that what you mean?

    I have a _few_ that I manually added streaming videos to, but mostly I have only Recordings on my OnePasses..
     
  16. meingraham

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    For the most part, I like OnePass. Yes, there are some "sorting" issues in terms of folders on My Shows and shows w/in the folder. I hope that feedback will improve these annoyances with a future update.

    I tried to search for this both here in the community as well as the Internet at large and could not see that this particular feature was an option. If I have a OnePass set for recordings and streaming, I would like TiVo to not schedule a recording if the upcoming broadcast episode is available as a streaming episode. Why take up a tuner slot and storage for a show that's already available? If not by default, then add this capability as an option for the user to choose. If one prefers to watch a recording vs. a streamed version, then by all means choose the option to "record regardless".
     
  17. mattack

    mattack Well-Known Member

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    But the streaming option isn't usually available at the SAME time as the recording option.. e.g. something is added to streaming (e.g. On Demand, which they're considering streaming) a day after the broadcast.

    Also, I'm not defending it, but Tivos typically don't include lots and lots of various options.. This would add YET another option to have to test all combinations.
     
  18. meingraham

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    mattack, you're referring to "near time"services like Hulu, etc. For streaming from Netflix or Amazon, there are full past seasons available... yet TiVo will record the broadcast episode. It could be one of the options in the OnePass to do "recordings only", "Recordings & streaming", "Recordings only if streaming not available".
     

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