One pass?

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by dlmart2, Feb 16, 2015.

  1. bobcharter

    bobcharter New Member

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    Thanks. I did as you suggested and reported to TiVo Support, and received a reply that it would be submitted for consideration as a "New Feature" (as opposed to something that used to work and was broken in the change from Season Pass to OnePass). Hopefully others will echo the need.
     
  2. Tivo II Jack

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    Who did you guys call about this, I would like to add myself to the list of people looking for a reversal. I have already said that One Pass totally SUCKS and with each passing day I keep finding more and more subtle changes that make it impossible to use the TiVo menus as I had in the past.

    If you want to scan through programs by time, you can o longer opt to scan only your favorite channels and must scan through hundreds of channels in each time slot.

    In just a one hour period there could be more than four time slots such as 9PM; 915PM; 930PM and 945PM.
     
  3. bobcharter

    bobcharter New Member

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    I didn't call, I just emailed to the Support link on the TiVo.com site and got that reply. But it also suggested that "new feature requests" be sent directly to the link below. Here is part of their reply:

    Thank you for contacting TiVo Customer Support! We appreciate your taking the time to provide feedback on the TiVo features and services. We are always happy to hear about the changes you would like to see. I would be happy to forward on a feature request on your behalf. This is passed to our engineers for further consideration in future updates of the TiVo Services.

    If you happen to have any further feedback or ideas for new features, please feel free to submit them directly to our engineering team by going to http://advisors.tivo.com/wix5/p2272893819.aspx
     
  4. slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

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    As I posted in a couple other threads, this appears to be fixed if you use an ARWL for PGA Tour Golf. Both of the third/final round showings are scheduled to record with my WL for next week, this was broken before but they may have fixed the guide data issue. The WL is set for new only and only PGA Tour, not web.com, Champions etc.

    An ARWL is the only way to handle this, IMO.
     
  5. Tivo II Jack

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    Thank you.
     
  6. bobcharter

    bobcharter New Member

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    Thanks for the suggestion. I tried it, and found that I had to also exclude multiple title keywords (EUROPEAN, Inside the, 2014 highlights, etc) to exclude the many golf-related shows that have PGA Tour in the title. That would be ok, but it still doesn't eliminate the GOLF channel broadcasts of PGA Tour on Thursday, Friday, early Saturday, early Sunday, and the evening condensed summaries! So it would be much better of OnePass allowed multiple specific channels, as opposed to "All channels". Same argument applies for "Soccer". But thanks for the suggestion!
     
  7. slowbiscuit

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    If you put first round/second round as excluded keyword phrases in the ARWL, exclude the keyword "spotlight" and set it to record new only, the only extra Golf Channel broadcasts you get are the early ones for live coverage of the third/final rounds. And those are easily cancelled if you really don't want them.

    You need to spend a little more time tweaking the WL, in other words. It's not that painful and you can always view upcoming matches from the WL to see how well it's working after your tweaks.

    Here's my ARWL, which works great now that they've fixed the guide data issue (at least for the Golf Channel/NBC combo):

    Title Keyword: PGA Tour Golf
    Excluded Keywords: First Round, Second Round, Champions, Web, European, Spotlight

    Record New Only with 1 hour padding.
     
  8. bobcharter

    bobcharter New Member

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    Thank you for taking the time to make additional suggestions, and you are correct that adding First Round and Second Round as Excluded Keywords does eliminate the Thurs/Fri recordings. So many thanks. But it still doesn't prevent recordings of the evening repeats on the Golf Channel, nor the weekend broadcasts of the non-WGC events on the Golf Channel such as next week's Puerto Rico Open happening in parallel with the "main event" of WGC. So I will (stubbornly) still opine to TiVo that it would be much easier to specify multiple (but not "All") desired channels in OnePass with a couple of clicks than have to do all this manual typing entry working arounds via WL. Nevertheless, my original posting did ask about work arounds, so again my thanks for your creative suggestions.
     
  9. slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

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    You're doing something wrong, with New Only set I don't see any repeats on my WL. And the Puerto Rico Open is essentially a one-off parallel event held for non-WGC qualifiers and is easily cancelled.

    I know you just want to vent against the change to 1P and I agree that there are other situations where it sucks compared to multiple SPs, but for me this is not one of them since an ARWL works so much better anyway. If you really don't want to see any Golf Channel early coverage scheduled I guess I see your point, but I don't mind watching it if I have time and it's just a couple of cancels/deletes if I don't.

    People seem to avoid or ignore ARWLs like the plague, but it's a really powerful way to record only the sports broadcasts you want (for example). All they need to do is add a specific channel option to them and they would largely replace the need for multiple 1Ps, IMO.
     
  10. A.VOID

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    Thanks
     
  11. Tanquen

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    I also don't like the now empty folders that have nothing in them at the top of my list because an episode can be streamed. Why would they do this?
     
  12. jsmeeker

    jsmeeker Notable Member TCF Club

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    I wondered the same thing as I deleted shows as I watched them. You can delete the whole folder, but make sure you chose the appropriate options. If you don't want to delete the underlying OnePass, make sure you don't
     
  13. mattack

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    I also saw that when I changed a OP to "recording and streaming", even though nothing was available streaming, it moved to the top.. So it had to do with the mod date of the OP or something.

    Mildly annoying, but it also didn't happen when I did that to a different OP.
     
  14. Tanquen

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    That is the first thing I did but it’s still there. I’ve selected recordings only in the pass and hidden the streaming options in the folder but it’s still there.

    Also have a fun issue after the One Pass was added. Now on many folders that I select I cannot play the show inside. I have to go out and back in then I can play the show. ???
     
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  15. ubergigglefritz

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    I hope they fix this OnePass thing before I have to add too many new ones. I have only added one since I got upgraded, and I despise the fact that there is a folder sitting at the top of the My Shows list that has nothing new in it. I want recordings only, no streaming, and it still shows streaming shows unless I change the view. Whether there is anything new in that folder or not, the folder sits at the top of my list. When I go to the My Shows list I want to see everything I have available to watch in my list, not a folder for every show I am interested in, whether anything is new or not. After being a customer for eight years, I am seething at how idiotic this is. There should be a view option to clean this up... Any other decent options for DVRs for OTA service without doing something connected with your PC? I want out.
     
  16. Tanquen

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    I now have two empty folders at the top of my list. Why on earth would they do this? I guess they just want to try and get people to buy the shows in the streaming apps.
     
  17. Tivo II Jack

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    I have never seen TiVo take so long to correct a major blunder. One Pass is the biggest blunder I have ever seen TiVo make in my 15 years as a user and they seem to have gone the way of Microsoft...

    Don't like Vista...give us a few years and we will fix that.

    Don't like W8.1, don't worry, give us time and we will correct it with W9...UMMM...never mind, hold your horses, we are going direct to W10 but you will have to wait even linger
     
  18. ubergigglefritz

    ubergigglefritz New Member

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    Even if you've watched everything (and nothing to buy), it will still be there. This update is truly an insult to the great Tivo name. I have sung Tivo praises for the entire eight years I've been with them. Sigh. I want my list to show everything available that I haven't watched yet (or deleted). If everything has been deleted in that show (whether recorded or streaming), there should be no folder. Period.
     
  19. moyekj

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    I'm no big fan of One Pass, but if you setup a One Pass as recordings only then it behaves as it used to with no folder shown when there are no recordings. In recording defaults you should change it to recordings only as well so you don't accidentally add streaming options in th future. If after changing a One Pass to recordings only you still see an empty folder, rebooting seems to get rid of it for many.
     
  20. astrohip

    astrohip Well-Known Raconteur TCF Club

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    Not sure I understand this? I have added new OnePasses, and with a single exception, made them all Recordings only. They do NOT show up on the Now Playing until they have an actual recorded show in them. No empty folders.

    The exception is Community, where I want the streaming.

    Additionally, you can set a default so Recordings only (no streaming) is the default for all new OnePasses.

    One of us is doing something wrong.:)
     

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