one pass set to new only is recording repeats

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by MistyRo, Sep 20, 2016.

  1. MistyRo

    MistyRo New Member

    Sep 20, 2016
    When I set the one pass to record new only, it records the later replays of the same program. The repeats are not marked new. This is happening on Fox News with a couple of programs like the Kelly File. I'm getting 3 recordings of each one because they are replayed twice later in the night. How do I stop it from recording the repeats?
  2. tampa8

    tampa8 Official Tivo User

    Jan 25, 2016
    Ct & FL
    That same issue has popped up in other forums from time to time like for DISH and Directv and specifically for FOX shows. Best it was determined the following rebroadcasts are not coded correctly as to being repeats, so the DVR records them to err on the safe side. I get it with Cops as well as Pawn Stars sometimes.
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  3. Kevin L

    Kevin L Active Member

    Jan 10, 2002
    Gulf Cove, FL
    Happening to me, too, on Fox News. Only started with the Rovi guide.
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  4. ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay

    Apr 6, 2000
    SF Bay Area
    Tivo will record any of the episodes it has not seen in at least 28 days.
    If the guide has generic episode info, it also records.
    Local news is most common for having generic guide info.
  5. ej42137

    ej42137 Well-Known Member

    Feb 15, 2014
    Los Angeles
    That is true if the One Pass is set for "New & Repeats". OP said his is set to "New Only".

    In the good old days of Gracenote, I would often see this for "The Simpsons" and "Saturday Night Live" reruns. I suspect I would have seen this for local news had I not used a manual recording for news programs.
  6. JoeKustra

    JoeKustra in the other Alabama TCF Club

    Dec 7, 2012
    Ashland, PA...
    Those 10pm "repackage" of SNL are back starting 10/1 since its season premier is at 11:29pm.
  7. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

    Jan 23, 2006
    Wow, TiVo/Rovi is really messing things up now. The TiVo database for Fox shows are all screwed up now. My Roamio hasn't done daily connection yet, but once it does Fox News will be all messed up. Examples:

    The O'Reilly Factor is now: Factor Special: Did You Know That 3
    The Kelly File is now: Kelly File Special: Battle at the Border

    Above is not just for today's airings, but goes on for all future airings of the above shows.

    In my case for O'Reilly Factor I was already using a repeat Manual Record for a specific channel and time slot, so it will record no matter what, but not sure if seriesId is different or not, so those with 1P for the above may not record.

    If you don't believe me, try doing a search for "Oreilly Factor" and you won't get any hits. Instead you have to search for "Factor Special".
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  8. PCurry57

    PCurry57 Liberal Hippie Chick

    Feb 27, 2012
    Dallas, TX
    Seems that recording FOX News makes your TiVo dumber, there's a statistically proven human analogy to this also.
  9. MistyRo

    MistyRo New Member

    Sep 20, 2016
    What's the Rovi guide?
  10. JoeKustra

    JoeKustra in the other Alabama TCF Club

    Dec 7, 2012
    Ashland, PA...
  11. chrisny2

    chrisny2 New Member

    Dec 19, 2006
    I'm having this re-record problem too, with shows that replay several times a day. The Rachel Maddow Show records every showing, even though my setting is for "New only"
  12. JoeKustra

    JoeKustra in the other Alabama TCF Club

    Dec 7, 2012
    Ashland, PA...
    MSNBC has been doing a lot of things to their listings lately. Several weeks ago they changed the 11pm weekday slot and nothing has been right since then. Notice that default program is going to MSNBC Live on Monday and flagged as new. It has been The Place For Politics for a few weeks and not new. Those extra programs of Rachael are marked as repeats, but nobody pays attention since they have dropped the date. CNN has been ok since they include the date. All In also has the Repeat indicator for every episode. It's chaos. :)
  13. Steve

    Steve TiVowner since 1999

    Apr 23, 2003
    Same thing with Quick Pitch on MLB. Only one per day is marked "new", but they all record, with a "new only" OnePass.
  14. waynomo

    waynomo My One Time TCF Club

    Nov 9, 2002
    Same thing with Last Week with John Oliver.
  15. cwoody222

    cwoody222 Well-Known Member

    Nov 13, 1999
    Buffalo, NY
    Seeing this now. South Park, Documentary Now, Fear the Walking Dead.
  16. elborak

    elborak Jack of Some Trades

    Jul 15, 2014
    Western PA...
    Yep. Seeing this on lots of shows (just noticed it again on Documentary Now!).
  17. dlfl

    dlfl Cranky old novice

    Jul 6, 2006
    Dayton OH
    Maybe the Rovi program guide people are sabotaging the Fox news data. It's not outlandish to think that after Facebook people were caught imposing their political bias on content -- Perhaps many of the Rovi employees have the political bias illustrated by @PCurry57 above.
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  18. tampa8

    tampa8 Official Tivo User

    Jan 25, 2016
    Ct & FL
    Good post. I wondering how to respond you did it better than I would have.
  19. bgc

    bgc Member

    Jan 12, 2008
    This happened to me for "Fear the Walking Dead". I've got all the episodes saved and it still recorded the 2 repeats they showed before the new episodes.
  20. chiguy50

    chiguy50 Active Member

    Nov 9, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Just to provide context, I want to point out that PCurry is referring, tongue in cheek, to a study performed by Fairleigh Dickenson University (and which has been reconfirmed by other sources) that found that viewers who say that they get their news solely or principally from Fox News are actually less well informed about current events than respondents who follow no news at all.

    IOW, they are not necessarily dumber, just less well informed. This has become known as "the Fox News effect."

    As a former career military intelligence specialist, I can tell you that this is the intentional result of a concerted disinformation campaign. Having been trained in propaganda techniques, I recognize the design at work.

    I have a very low opinion of what passes for news reporting on the broadcast and cable networks altogether. But Fox News is in a whole different category when it comes to deceiving and manipulating the viewers according to a preconceived political agenda.

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