Oh Crap - Rovi buys TiVo?

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  1. Mar 24, 2016 #1 of 752
    JoeKustra

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    It was just reported on CNBC that the NYT has reported that Rovi plans to buy TiVo. Cramer might act crazy a lot, but this is strange. Anybody confirm?

    Rovi's stock has been rising for a while. TiVo not so much but rising 17% this morning. Now up 20%!

    Update: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/25/b...aid-to-be-in-merger-talks-with-rovi.html?_r=0
    http://www.streetinsider.com/Hot+M+and+A/TiVo+(TIVO),+Rovi+(ROVI)+Said+in+Merger+Talks/11446585.html
     
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  2. Mar 24, 2016 #2 of 752
    moyekj

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    Wow. That is big news if true. If it does happen does that mean guide data will be switching to Rovi source instead of Tribune? For ReplayTV once it started being shopped around it spelled the beginning of the end for that company unfortunately...
     
  3. Mar 24, 2016 #3 of 752
    JoeKustra

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  4. Mar 24, 2016 #4 of 752
    skypros

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    Maybe this is the spark to light the fire..... Someone needs to buy Tivo.

    Maybe Rovi buys Tivo..... then repackages it and puts it up for sale (or the whole company)

    Maybe...... Google, Apple, Amazon, Netflix, DirecTV, Echostar..... or a host of other companies finally may want to bid on Tivo.

    I have already lost a little bit of $ buying Tivo stock (I purchased it last year when they announced the Roamio OTA w/Lifetime for $300).... So I am really gun shy about buying Tivo stock again. :eek:
     
  5. Mar 24, 2016 #5 of 752
    zubinh

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    This is disconcerting. I was hoping for a Bolt Pro this year but now that doesn't seem likely.
     
  6. Mar 24, 2016 #6 of 752
    bradleys

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    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/25/b...aid-to-be-in-merger-talks-with-rovi.html?_r=0

     
  7. Mar 24, 2016 #7 of 752
    bonscott87

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    Wow. Had I known this I would have not just bought a Bolt 3 months ago. Ugggggg. I hate Rovi, their guide has to be the worst crap there is on the planet. Always out of date, new channels never added, no way to actually contact them to get channels added. They basically helped hasten the death of Windows Media Center.

    I may look to sell my Tivo sooner then later and just go full on streaming and VOD if this happens and they switch to the Rovi guide.
     
  8. Mar 24, 2016 #8 of 752
    mdavej

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    You guys may not realize, but Windows Media Center switched to Rovi for guide data several months ago, and it has been a total disaster. It's complete garbage compared to Tribune. If they are for sale, anybody BUT Rovi would be a thousand times better. I hope this falls through.

    EDIT: I see bonscott beat me to it. My Tivo days would also come to an end if Rovi were in charge.
     
  9. Mar 24, 2016 #9 of 752
    bradleys

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    I was hoping TiVo would align with somebody who can deliver and integrate their hardware and services more economically. I am not sure what real value Rovi brings to TiVo.

    What would be the core product of this new company? Hardware, software, services? Or just a patent library....
     
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    MeInDallas

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    This is one of the main reasons I stopped using WMC, because the guide was always horribly incorrect in my area.
     
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  12. Mar 24, 2016 #12 of 752
    bonscott87

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    Same for me, plus it's not in Windows 10 so should I ever upgrade the media PC I've be out of luck. I happily bought a Tivo but if they replaced the guide with Rovi (and why wouldn't they)...everyone is in for a world of hurt. In my local area we've gotten over half a dozen new subchannels in the past 6 months. Tribune has them added to the Tivo guide most of the time before even launch date. Rovi....still doesn't have a single one of them. And one of our stations is on two different frequencies in the market to cover the whole market as there is interferrence with a neighboring market on the edge. Well Rovi decided it seems that it must be in error that there would be two frequencies for the same station so they only have one of them...the one I can't tune to without problems of course. Tivo? Both are listed and I just removed the weak one from my channel list. Can't do that with Rovi and no way you can get them to actually fix it. With Tribune you can at least email Zap2It and get things corrected.

    Anyway...just a gut punch to feel I wasted $400 down the drain. Then again even if Rovi were to buy Tivo it would be a couple/three years at least before anything would really happen and by then I'm probably ready to move on anyway.
     
  13. Mar 24, 2016 #13 of 752
    ajwees41

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    I believe cox has Rovi for ipg's and tribune for guide data.
     
  14. Mar 24, 2016 #14 of 752
    Dan203

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    I hope this isn't true. :(
     
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    Space

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    There are a few ways to contact Rovi to get things corrected, I do it all the time, but I agree that the data they provide leaves much to be desired.

    Many WMC users are switching to use epg123 in combination with Schedules Direct to get Gracenote data back in WMC, and it is much better than ever (but comes with a $25 Schedules Direct yearly fee, whereas the Rovi data provided by Microsoft is free).
     
  16. Mar 24, 2016 #16 of 752
    mdavej

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    Between epg123 and the Win 10 WMC hack, at least WMC is a viable option again. Only drawback with Win 10 (and Win 8.1) is that non-Xbox extenders don't work. So I'd have to buy several Xboxes if I had to go back to WMC.

    I was just about to put my last Ceton tuner on ebay. Now I'm glad I didn't.
     
  17. Mar 24, 2016 #17 of 752
    rainwater

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    I'm not sure why people are worried about the guide. Of all things to worry about with this possible acquisition, the guide seems least important. Surely TiVo has a contract with Tribune. Even if they got out of it, switching to a different guide provider would take an insane amount of time engineering and development.
     
  18. Mar 24, 2016 #18 of 752
    Space

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    True, but once that contract is over, there is no way they would stick with Gracenote (Tribune) when they have their own competing service.

    Besides, they are just in talks about this merger, it hasn't even happened (yet?). So, yeah, a long time before any changes (if any).
     
  19. Mar 24, 2016 #19 of 752
    gbshuler@yahoo.c

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    TiVo recently brought in a new CEO. Nice guy layed off 50 TiVo employees soon after. Article I read mentioned CEO said TiVo would be moving the tuner hardware/software in a different direction (leaving the crown jewel user interface alone I presume). I think it was similar to the Cisco Worldbox's (which use an all new technology freeing the cable companies from the "cable card headaches" - based on legislation passed in 2015). This merge now makes perfect sense. This CEO answers only to the shareholders.


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  20. Mar 24, 2016 #20 of 752
    Space

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    Since Rovi owns the patent to using a grid-style program guide, it is possible it could be implemented on TiVo if there is a merger, but who knows what's going to happen...
     

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