Official: Tivo says "DVR rollouts with... DirecTV are on track"

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  1. Sep 9, 2009 #61 of 211
    cthomp21

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    After living with a pair of HR22's for the past few months, I respectfully disagree.

    Other than Mediashare (which has its quirks) and being able to decode MPEG-4, I can't think of anything that an HR2X is superior to my HR10-250's (in features that are important to me).

    It is really, really slooooooooooooooooooowwwww. It is unintuitive (my 3yr old can operate our DTivo's like a pro). The interface is overly complicated. The remote just plain stinks (bring back the peanut).

    I can't wait to kick the HR22's to the curb when the new HD Directivo's come out. Several years ago, a DTivo revolutionized the way that our family watches television. The HR22's feel like a step backwards.


    That being said, I can understand whey some people love the HR2X series. They appeal to people who like to tinker. They appeal to people who prefer having all possible, available options continually available everywhere. They appeal to people who want more interaction with the DVR.
     
  2. Sep 9, 2009 #62 of 211
    shibby191

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    I've always found this statement curious. What exactly is unituitive or overly complicated about the UI of the HR2x?

    I finally had to get rid of our last DirecTivo in the house because my wife hated the Tivo UI vs. the HR2x UI. And she always complained about how dang slow the DirecTivo was in comparison. So I finally got rid of it and got another HR2x to replace.

    So I'm just curious what in your experience is unituitive in every day use? Not trying to flame, just trying to understand because so far in people I've know that have had DirecTivo's (a lot) I'm not seeing these complaints. The only complaint I've ever gotten from friends (and I've asked) is the lack of DLB and now that is no longer an issue. They have all said "thank god DLB is back, now I don't care about Tivo anymore".

    Anyway....I want to learn.
     
  3. Sep 9, 2009 #63 of 211
    bkdtv

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    There are thousands of posts on the topic, so you might want to spend more time reading TCF and DBSTalk.
     
  4. Sep 9, 2009 #64 of 211
    stevel

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    Well, yes, but for each person who finds the HR2x UI "complicated" or "unintuitive", someone else thinks it's fine. If you read TCF, you get people used to "the TiVo way" and who treat that as the only way.
     
  5. Sep 9, 2009 #65 of 211
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    Wow. 50% of HR2x users think the UI is complicated or unintuitive. :eek:

    Maybe it's not too late for the HD DirecTiVo?

    3...2...1...
     
  6. Sep 9, 2009 #66 of 211
    sjberra

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    by that opinion, 50 percent of the users think the tivo UI is cr...

    only thing I can say is when my last HR10 unit finally breaks and Directv replaces it with a HR2X unit I will be playing "thank God and GreyHound it's gone" when I take it out to the back 50 and introduce it to Mr Smith and Mr's Wesson
     
  7. Sep 9, 2009 #67 of 211
    20TIL6

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    No, that's not what stevel said. He said for every HR2x user....
     
  8. Sep 9, 2009 #68 of 211
    cthomp21

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    Well, for starters, hitting the Tivo button at the top of the remote to access the Tivo interface with a simple list of everything you'd want to do (now playing list, search for programs, manage season passes, etc.)

    My 3yr old, my technically challenged parents, and my elderly grandmother can all operate a DTivo. They all picked it up quickly because the Tivo button provides a type of jumping off point with a simple, easy to understand menu of items behind it.

    The HR2X have DVR functions in a multitude of places. Want to search for shows? Well, that's under the Menu function. Want to access your now playing list? Press the List button. Want to activate DLB/DoublePlay? Press down twice.

    My daughter (now almost 5) hasn't figured it out. I have to help her start any of her shows that we record for her. My wife can use it, but she complains about the interface and how slow it is. One thing she really dislikes is the lack of an audible feedback when a button is pushed (such as changing the channels).
     
  9. Sep 9, 2009 #69 of 211
    tibber

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    From the HR2x menu you have access to your entire "simple list of everything you'd want to do": My Playlist, Search for Shows, Manage Recordings, etc.

    You also have access to On Demand; Music, Photos & More (Media share), Caller ID; TVmail (Messages); and Parental, Fav's & Setup. Yes, just like on TiVo, there are other shortcuts on the remote control to specific functions. Those are there on both companies' remotes to make things easier to get to the most often used items. Yet you still can use the menu button to get to them...

    Cheers,
    Tom
     
  10. Sep 9, 2009 #70 of 211
    samo

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    Not to mention color buttons. I use them all the time. TiVo UI hasn't changed in 10 years and is really dated. I find DirecTV UI more pleasant and useful. And RF remote is just an icing on the cake.
     
  11. Sep 9, 2009 #71 of 211
    fasTLane

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    We..want..the Tivo! We..want..the Tivo! We..want..the Tivo!....
     
  12. Sep 9, 2009 #72 of 211
    shibby191

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    Thanks for your comments.

    Press the Menu button on the HR2x, same thing.

    Single press of the menu button does the same thing. Very easy to understand items available in the menu, similar to Tivo.

    Confused on this one. Everything you want to find is under one area, the Menu. Search is right on the main menu as well.

    I don't understand why have an actual button on the remote to bring up the playlist is harder to use. :confused: Heck, there is a List button on the Tivo remote.

    And Tivo is the same only press down once. On the HR2x the first time you get a confirmation screen with which you press down again to activate. And this is harder to use how? Both Tivo and HR2x require knowledge to press the down arrow once to get to DLB.

    Sounds like you can simply tell her to press "list" which will bring up the "list" of shows and she can choose which one she wants.

    I think most of your issues are simply spending 5 minutes to figure out a couple different ways of doing things. But all are very intuitive and easy to use.

    Either that or it's just being stubborn that because it's not Tivo then it must be bad.

    Anyway, good luck to you and your family.
     
  13. Sep 9, 2009 #73 of 211
    fasTLane

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    We..want..the Tivo! We..want..the Tivo! We..want..the Tivo!....
     
  14. Sep 9, 2009 #74 of 211
    cthomp21

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    Uhhh... Hello? :confused:

    I don't need lessons on how to operate an HR2X. I'm quite proficient and know all of the menus, shortcuts, extras features, etc...

    I am stating an OPINION on what interface I prefer.
     
  15. Sep 9, 2009 #75 of 211
    BOBCAT

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    Well... there are some people that are waiting to take the HR2x to the E/waist when the HD TiVo comes out, then there are others that want to "introduce the HR10-250 to Mr Smith and Mr's Wesson out in the back 40"
    My question is if you wanted to introduce it to Mr Smith and Mr's Wesson, why are you waiting until it fails? You can trade it in at any time to get a HR2x from Directv.
    Guess that you like the HR10-250 a little more than you let on!

    On the remote control:
    "It is too symmetrical, meaning it is not easy to determine if you are holding it upside down in the dark"
    When you pick up the remote in the dark, you can tell if it is right side up, or up side down just by the feel. Your thumb falls right on the up-down-left-right button when right side up. If it is up side down, you feel a bunch of small buttons under your thumb.
    It is a no brainier.
    The Peanut remote was designed to fit the palm of your hand and run with one hand. It is a very ergo designed remote, not a rectangle brick that is awkward to hold and takes 2 hands to operate in some cases.

    HR10-250 slow?
    My HR10's move right along. no delays in changing channels, going to the menus.

    Most slow problems are caused by failing hard drives which can be easily cloned and replaced using MSFlive. It doesn't require typing command strings, just point and click.
    I have a 500GB in one HR10, and a 750GB in the other. They are SATA drives with a adapter to convert to PATA that I got on Ebay for $6.

    At one time I had 4 HR10's running. After TiVo/Directv did some software upgrades years ago, they resolved the "slow" problem. The HR10's move right along just fine. When I upgraded to 7200 RPM seagate hard drives, they were even faster. For years I haven't had any lockup's, freezes, or any other reason to power cycle/ reboot these machines. The only time I take them down is about every 6 months to blow the dust out of them to keep them running cool.
    Even though there is only 6 HD channels left from Directv that it can receive for now, I mainly use the HR10's for over the air local HD TV programs. It would make me happy if Directv could leave those last 6 channels running MPEG2 until the new HD TiVo's comes out, but if they go away, I will still use the HR10's until the new HD TiVo comes out.

    Everyone has there point of view, guess you can tell what camp I'm in. But I respect the views of the people that like/own the HR2x also.
    73
     
  16. Sep 9, 2009 #76 of 211
    shibby191

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    Totally understand and I appreciate what you posted. I was simply pointing out that using the menu button instead of the Tivo button to do the same thing (for example) isn't all that hard and unintuitive as you stated.

    It doesn't change the fact you don't like it, but it also doesn't change the fact that it's just as easy to use, just different.
     
  17. Sep 10, 2009 #77 of 211
    HiDefGator

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    The RF remote on the HR2x is still one of my favorite parts. No more having to point it at the box.

    I also love the ability to play an entire group of shows a once. I can press play on the hannah montana group and get instant 2 hour baby sitting service.
     
  18. Sep 11, 2009 #78 of 211
    LAlawMedMBA

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    The HR2x, as you call them, are also bad. When I asked DirecTV why the responsiveness to remote control commands was so interminable, and so much slower even than the sluggish R15, they blamed it on the additional memory requirements of HD.
     
  19. Sep 11, 2009 #79 of 211
    stevel

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    I have an HR10, HR20 and HR21. I find the HR10 to be slower than the HR21 in many operations.
     
  20. Sep 11, 2009 #80 of 211
    HiDefGator

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    I would have to say that my Hr2x's vary a lot in responsiveness. Usually they are faster than my old hr10. But occasionally they seem to be busy doing other things. Just not things I told them to do.
     

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