Advertisements The problem in the case of the DVR is the numbers really don't mean all that much. They may speak a little to how few Tivo subscriptions there are but that is about all. The majority of people who have DVRs at least in my experience don't even really use them. They have them because they were told they were great and they were almost the same as paying for a non DVR. I can't even remember the last time I saw a non-DVR DTV receiver in any of the stores. It is amazing when you talk to people and how many just accept the DVRs will miss shows. They do it because they aren't using DVRs the way most of us use DVRs. For example I can't remember the last time I watched live tv. Meanwhile the people I work with talk about how they have to be home by a certain time to watch their favorite show and they have a DVR. When you ask they either say they always forget to set a recording or they are afraid it won't record the show. The other issue is with DTV you no longer had Tivo for a choice for HD programming. What else were those users who refuse to leave Directv but now only watch HD programming supposed to do? Of course when you can't choose Tivo and there is only the one option, guess which one grows over time. I think with DVRs you will never have a true idea what the real numbers are as a result of all this especially as the boxes are pushed more over standard receivers.