Official: Tivo says "DVR rollouts with... DirecTV are on track"

Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by Phillip Chapman, Aug 27, 2009.

  1. lrhorer

    lrhorer Active Member

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    Well, much like PCs, there are people who have TiVos, and people who actually make full use of them. Many TiVo owners treat their TiVos - indeed think of their TiVos - as VCRs with some added features. What many people fail to consider is that the TiVo offers a whole different paradigm for TV entertainment. It allows one to eliminate the dependency on station and network programmers and any exigency of time dependence from one's viewing. The value of time-shifting in general aside, if you ask me the very most important feature set of the Tivo consists of those utilities which eliminate the things I don't want from my consideration. Since turning on "Live TV" is virtually guaranteed to present me with that which I do not want, I'll happily stick to the NPL, which contains far, far more things I would like to watch than I would ever actually be able to watch. Why waste my time searching through mountains of mostly rotting hamburger, tripe, and wilted lettuce when for less time and trouble I can have fresh USDA Choice T-Bones, live Maine lobster, and truffles?
     
  2. lrhorer

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    It does. There's also a 3rd party utility for on-screen caller ID. I would rather have someone scrape their fingernails down a chalkboard than have this "feature".
     
  3. magnus

    magnus Tivo User

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    Same here. I don't see the need for such items but if they have to be there then let me configure to turn it off. And again, I certainly would not call these advanced as others seemed to suggest.

     
  4. innocentfreak

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    There is a supplemental profile questionnaire in the options on the left of the screen. I don't remember all the new questions but several reminded me of things that were mentioned in the Best Buy announcement. These were new questions and weren't on the original profile.
     
  5. magnus

    magnus Tivo User

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    Here is a list of things that I would like to see in the new box.

    1) 4 tuners - Directv won't buy off on that
    2) DLNA/UPnP support - as a client and a server
    3) Cooperative scheduling - especially if not implementing #1
    4) Netflix - without the need for a PC
    5) Hulu - without the need for a PC
     
  6. ewilts

    ewilts Who, me?

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    I got the email too, and I don't see a link to a supplemental profile questionnaire after I log in. The email I got is not replyable so I'm kinda SOL at the moment. I can update my personal account settings which is just contact and location info, or log out. Those are my only options.
     
  7. innocentfreak

    innocentfreak Well-Known Member

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    When you log in, on the left under Personal Profiles under Test Platforms I now had a supplemental questionnaire link. It may vary based on what platform you have under test platforms since I had added my Tivo HD about 3 months ago.
     
  8. ewilts

    ewilts Who, me?

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    The only thing I see listed under Personal Profiles is "Personal Account". It's the same for IE and Firefox. My Series 3 had been involved in beta programs before.
     
  9. samo

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    1. It would require development of the new hardware - certainly will not happen in 2010
    2. Already on DirecTV units, will have to be implemented on TiVo or TiVo box will be no go.
    3. and 4. Will never happen. First DirecTV has 4500 titles on "on-Demand" and there is very little need for extra, second it will compete with PPV and DirecTV will be nuts if they allow Netflix or Hulu on their box.
     
  10. magnus

    magnus Tivo User

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    Not sure I would see much point in paying extra then.

     
  11. nrc

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    "Very little need for extra." Ha. Amazon has something like 45,000 titles. There appears to be a market for those other 40,000 titles. :)

    Just compared my Amazon order history to DTV's "on-Demand". Of the last 10 titles I've ordered only two are available and one of them isn't in HD. Yes, with such a limited offering it's in DirecTV's interest to lock out customer choice.

    Also, Hulu is licensed by the studios as a PC delivery mechanism. Any direct-to-TV delivery is unlikely to be approved any time soon.
     
  12. Matt L

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    That's you.

    I record everything I normally watch, no question there. But there are times I just want to veg out and not pay serious attention to what I'm watching. I may flip through channels and find something interesting, or I'll flip to the other tuner and get drawn into something. If I decide I like it and want to see something the buffer is there. I'm certainly not going to whine about the little space the buffer uses, and truth be told I have seen no evidence that it takes any space away from recordings. TiVo always held a block of space for system use, and the buffer was part of that, and the HR2xs have content pushed to them, and the buffer is volatile so odds are it's not taking ANY space from recordings.

    I've had TiVos for about 10 years now, so I know they are not fancy VCRs. And as to your food allusions, sometimes it's hard to beat a greasy burger and fries.
     
  13. sjberra

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    More then likely yes since the software load will only be available for Directv accounts and users
     
  14. magnus

    magnus Tivo User

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    So, it's going to be a software load and not new hardware?

     
  15. sjberra

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    Reading the original release it appears that way, at least to me. Can;t see them stocking two different hardware boxes and having issues with PP and new installs, to much of a chance of the wrong box being sent or brought by the installed, that would be a bad idea. Alot easier to have one hardware platform, flag the account for Tivo or Directv base, plug it in and let it bootstrap into the correct softare load.

    They are already going to have to have some way of differentiating between the two anyway since the original release indicated there was going to be an additional surcharge for the TIVO base and that the stock Directv base would be the standard unless requested.

    Just not economicly smart to have 2 different hardware platforms where only the software will be different. Suspect that all the "toys" like Netflix, etc will not be available on the Directv TIVO version since it is direct competition for PPV and the ability to "modify" the base software will probably not be there either.

    For al the years in my business, have become a believer in the KISS principal, and this just seems to fit to well. The need to keep less stock on hand is a plus
     
  16. tgibbs

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    I think any fixed-length limit is inadequate. I virtually never watch TV in real time, but I still want a full-show length buffer, because I do, once in a while, happen to turn on my TiVo and see a show in progress that I wish I'd thought to record, but it's already too far into it to get the beginning. Put in an option to limit the buffer if people are upset about it (although I can't see why anybody should be, since it's not going to use up any more disk space than is used making a scheduled recording, and the space is freed up once the show ends without being saved, or when or the tuner switches to record a scheduled show, anyway).
     
  17. durst

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    Well, whatever. It was around 1999 or 2000 when I started. Guess that's 9 or 10 years. Anyway, ever since it became available here.

    I'm just pointing out that I use my Tivo to the maximum. Yea, my preference is watching recorded programs, however, there are many times I turn on the TV and see something interesting and immediately flip to the beginning of the buffer.

    Having the other tuner to flip over to and check doubles your chance that something interesting is recording live. It doesn't always work out that I find something, I just like to check first before I jump on my Now Playing list.
     
  18. cbessant

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    DirecTv is suppose to announce the launch of a 3D HD satellite during the upcoming CES. Is it possible that the delay with the new DirecTv HD TiVo unit could be due to 3D capabilities to be included?
     
  19. litzdog911

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    It's not a "3D satellite", but rather a "3D movie channel". There's more information about it in the Programming Forum at http://www.dbstalk.com. I doubt this has anything to do with the new HD Tivo.

    http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=170318
     
  20. stevel

    stevel Dumb Blond TCF Club

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    The 3D capabilities would be in the TV, not the recorder.
     

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