Official: Tivo says "DVR rollouts with... DirecTV are on track"

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  1. Aug 27, 2009 #1 of 211
    Phillip Chapman

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    Even though this isn't the main point of the article, it's at least something concerning the status of the new DirecTV HD Tivo. Hopefully more will be announced soon.

    http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=23337
     
  2. Aug 27, 2009 #2 of 211
    stevel

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    Yes, but which track? The original one that said Fall 2009 or the rescheduled one for "2010"?
     
  3. Aug 27, 2009 #3 of 211
    Phillip Chapman

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    It seems like it would have to be the 2010 track at this point considering we know none of the specs as of yet.

    Some have speculated whether or not the new DirecTV HD Tivo is going to happen at all, so it's nice to get official confirmation that it is still being developed.
     
  4. Aug 27, 2009 #4 of 211
    Cudahy

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    The first word in, what, 6 months?
     
  5. Aug 27, 2009 #5 of 211
    sjberra

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    Sorry, still not official, will believe it when it hits the retail market in bulk availablity, untill then it is still blue sky. Lot can happen between now and sometime in 2010. Especially since the kitten is taking on the two lions in the patent infringement issues

    Tivo a business division of (att or verizon)
     
  6. Aug 27, 2009 #6 of 211
    bkdtv

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    On CNBC this morning, Tom Rogers (TiVo CEO) said the new DirecTiVo was "on track for early 2010." [Source]
     
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    codespy

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    You didn't happen to TiVo that so WE can see it did you? :D
     
  8. Aug 28, 2009 #8 of 211
    shibby191

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    Nothing new. Early 2010 has been what Tivo has been saying for over 6 months now.
     
  9. Aug 28, 2009 #9 of 211
    bkdtv

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    I included the link to the online video, above.

    Right. The only "news" is that they are still on schedule for early 2010.
     
  10. Aug 28, 2009 #10 of 211
    TyroneShoes

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    Kitty kicked the *** of the last lion.

    Ironically, he recorded it on his HD DVR+.
     
  11. Aug 29, 2009 #11 of 211
    Rainy Dave

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    ZDNet needs to hire a better proofreader.

     
  12. Aug 30, 2009 #12 of 211
    sjberra

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    If you mean dish network, I really want to thank you for a good laugh, sorry Dish is no where near the corporate entity that ATT and Verizon is, they could purchase Dish out of petty cash for their division and not notice it
     
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    If you compared the business segments.... DISH vs. U-Verse, or FiOS, that would be one thing.

    But if you are considering T and VZ in their corporate entireties, all businesses and markets, then yes, they are much larger.

    The question becomes is U-Verse or FiOS, as a business, prepared to shoulder the litigation expenses in lieu of the rest of corporate funding. Now obviously it would be looked at as a corporate expense, so the full support comes with that. But don't think for a minute that management will look at this corporate expense as being incurred entirely by a single division. And they will develop risk models based upon that.

    I'm not predicting at all what will come of this. But the corporate comparison between DISH and these "telcos" is interesting. Whereas DISH was fighting to defend their entire business, T and VZ would not be. The defense against a preliminary injunction had considerably more weight for DISH than it does for either AT&T or Verizon.

    The bigger they are... the harder it is to argue harm.
     
  14. Aug 30, 2009 #14 of 211
    sjberra

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    Considering it as a corporation, most large scale coprorations with multiple divisions have one legal division that handles all of their litigation - so suspect that tivo is going up again the resourses of ATT and verizion as a corporation not as uverse or fios.
     
  15. Aug 31, 2009 #15 of 211
    nirvanayoda

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    I agree. Besides, they're going to hire outside counsel who specialize in patent litigation (like Fish & Richardson, Howrey, Sidley Austin, etc) anyway, so the size of in-house divisions won't matter.
     
  16. Sep 1, 2009 #16 of 211
    sjberra

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    Always good to bring in experts to assist the internal legal team. ATT and Verizion's pockets are a lot deeper then Tivo's
     
  17. Sep 1, 2009 #17 of 211
    fasTLane

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    It's all about $money$. Forget ethics. :cool:
     
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    20TIL6

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    Yeah, but are their pockets deeper than DISH's? With nearly $200 million being awarded to TiVo so far, and perhaps as much as $1 billion in sanctions on deck, TiVo could effectively litigate against ATT and V by just using DISH's money.

    BTW, one of those experts, the Fish firm, also provided DISH with an opinion that their workaround no longer infringed. But under cross, Fish admitted that no one had reviewed the source code of the workaround. In subsequent filings, it is apparent that their "expert assistance" was not helpful at all. The district court ruled that the workaround still infringes.
     
  19. Sep 1, 2009 #19 of 211
    shibby191

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    LOL. You do realize that AT&T and Verizon are so much larger then Dish, right? ;) They'll make $200 million before lunch today. :D
     
  20. Sep 1, 2009 #20 of 211
    20TIL6

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    Yep, I am aware of the size difference. When arguing against an injunction, it helps to show considerable harm to your entire business. Shutting down DVRs won't materially impact cell phone and other data/telecom services. I don't necessarily think being huge is an advantage in this case for that very reason.

    Have we heard from ATT or VZ yet? I think I read that ATT had no comment and VZ said they had not read the infringement filing yet. They have been pretty quiet about it.

    You meant that $200 million as revenue before lunch... not bottom line profit, right?

    With these latest filings..... and interestingly whom TiVo did not file against, perhaps some sides are forming.
     

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